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10-18-2023 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
So you are saying maybe it wasn't a good idea for every Democrat in the house to team up with 8 far right wing Republicans to intentionally create a power vacuum, when there was no indication the Republican House would be able to fill said vacuum with a better candidate? Who would have thunk that?
It's an ongoing bad idea for republicans to not negotiate with dems so they can get support for a speaker.
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10-18-2023 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed
It's an ongoing bad idea for republicans to not negotiate with dems so they can get support for a speaker.
So it was a giant effort for the Republican middle to even elect someone who would work with the Democrats at all, because their right was so belligerent.

And Democrats thought by teaming with the belligerent right to oust that moderate candidate, moderate Republicans would decide to work with them to install a better option?

When it happened I said there was no chance that would happen, and it looks like that prognostication was correct.
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10-18-2023 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
So it was a giant effort for the Republican middle to even elect someone who would work with the Democrats at all, because their right was so belligerent.

And Democrats thought by teaming with the belligerent right to oust that moderate candidate, moderate Republicans would decide to work with them to install a better option?

When it happened I said there was no chance that would happen, and it looks like that prognostication was correct.
Of course it was not a giant effort at all. Dems just voted how they normally voted. They're not going to support a speaker who won't work with them. They're adults so they know how to vote.

The obvious problem is that republicans are not capable of governing. They have two pretty easy options. Work with the dems or rally behind a republican. It's their fault they cannot do either.
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10-18-2023 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
So it was a giant effort for the Republican middle to even elect someone who would work with the Democrats at all, because their right was so belligerent.

And Democrats thought by teaming with the belligerent right to oust that moderate candidate, moderate Republicans would decide to work with them to install a better option?

When it happened I said there was no chance that would happen, and it looks like that prognostication was correct.
It's clearly the Republicans' fault that there is no Speaker. It would only take a few of them to unite with the Democrats to install Jeffries as Speaker.
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10-18-2023 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
And Democrats thought by teaming with the belligerent right...........
Lolololololololol
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10-18-2023 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
So you are saying maybe it wasn't a good idea for every Democrat in the house to team up with 8 far right wing Republicans to intentionally create a power vacuum, when there was no indication the Republican House would be able to fill said vacuum with a better candidate? Who would have thunk that?
Yes democrats are teaming up with 8 far right idiots that repeatedly try to impeach a democrat president .

The power vacuum is created by the 8 idiots .
The problem ain’t the 8 , it’s the others that keep voting for radicals as a speaker ….

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 10-18-2023 at 01:14 PM.
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10-18-2023 , 01:19 PM
Maybe the Republicans should put forward someone that isn't a total ****. Oh, wait.....
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10-18-2023 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
It's clearly the Republicans' fault that there is no Speaker. It would only take a few of them to unite with the Democrats to install Jeffries as Speaker.
I thought we did not want an election denier as speaker?
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10-18-2023 , 01:40 PM
<sigh>
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10-18-2023 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
So you are saying maybe it wasn't a good idea for every Democrat in the house to team up with 8 far right wing Republicans to intentionally create a power vacuum, when there was no indication the Republican House would be able to fill said vacuum with a better candidate? Who would have thunk that?
The dems are voting for Hakeem Jefferies.
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10-18-2023 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
The dems are voting for Hakeem Jefferies.
another election denier
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10-18-2023 , 03:57 PM
lol the republicons just can't stop blaming anybody but themselves for their problems...
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10-18-2023 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
lol the republicons just can't stop blaming anybody but themselves for their problems...
The fact they have no speaker is the GOP problem created by themselves but the reality to this is nothing is getting approved for Ukraine, Israel and funding the government .

I am curious which prominent republicans are blaming the Democrats for this problem. The ones I have heard have been very critical of the GOP and their infighting
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10-18-2023 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I am curious which prominent republicans are blaming the Democrats for this problem.
Dunyain.
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10-18-2023 , 05:16 PM
lol, kevin mccarthy blamed the dems in is first speech after getting ousted.

Last edited by #Thinman; 10-18-2023 at 05:17 PM. Reason: still loozen
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10-18-2023 , 05:49 PM
Next up, marjorie taylor greene?
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10-18-2023 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Next up, marjorie taylor greene?
I’m pulling for Lauren.
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10-18-2023 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
If it is going to be a ideological (and at some point physical) battle between Western progressives, Russia, Iran, and the Arab totalitarian states against the free world, I am perfectly ok having JK Rowling on my side.
I'm not picking a side until I find out which side Billy Gibbons is going to be on.
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10-19-2023 , 01:01 AM
I wonder what the chances are that the Democrats could encourage one of the Republicans who refused to vote for the recent candidates to run himself with the support of the Democrats (along with a few favors for them regarding committee assignments or whatever they want).
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10-19-2023 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I wonder what the chances are that the Democrats could encourage one of the Republicans who refused to vote for the recent candidates to run himself with the support of the Democrats (along with a few favors for them regarding committee assignments or whatever they want).
Democrats already booted out the Republican who was most inclined to deal/bargain with them. I am not saying McCarthy was a great ally to the Democrats, but he was about as good as they could expect to get at this time. If you read this as an indictment of where the Republican Party is at in 2023 I am not inclined to disagree.

I mean the Democrat strategy was obviously to highlight how dysfunctional the Republican Party is, to help their electoral chances down the line. And I would say it has been a resounding success so far. Of course the only question is whether the juice is going to be worth the squeeze. The damage to the nation may be so immense that any victory the Dems get may be Pyrrhic at best.
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10-19-2023 , 02:00 AM
Good luck trying to put the blame on the party that have the minority .
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10-19-2023 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Democrats already booted out the Republican who was most inclined to deal/bargain with them. I am not saying McCarthy was a great ally to the Democrats, but he was about as good as they could expect to get at this time. If you read this as an indictment of where the Republican Party is at in 2023 I am not inclined to disagree.

I mean the Democrat strategy was obviously to highlight how dysfunctional the Republican Party is, to help their electoral chances down the line. And I would say it has been a resounding success so far. Of course the only question is whether the juice is going to be worth the squeeze. The damage to the nation may be so immense that any victory the Dems get may be Pyrrhic at best.
If that's the best the republicans have then there is no reason to vote for any republican.
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10-19-2023 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Democrats already booted out the Republican who was most inclined to deal/bargain with them. I am not saying McCarthy was a great ally to the Democrats, but he was about as good as they could expect to get at this time. If you read this as an indictment of where the Republican Party is at in 2023 I am not inclined to disagree.

I mean the Democrat strategy was obviously to highlight how dysfunctional the Republican Party is, to help their electoral chances down the line. And I would say it has been a resounding success so far. Of course the only question is whether the juice is going to be worth the squeeze. The damage to the nation may be so immense that any victory the Dems get may be Pyrrhic at best.
You understand that the more you whine about it, the more it looks like a great strategy?
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10-19-2023 , 10:43 AM
Sometimes the jokes write themselves:

Starbucks, Workers United union sue each other in standoff over pro-Palestinian social media post
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...ial-media-post



I for one am shocked that a far left activist organization parading as a labor union, that would choose this avatar, would be supportive of murdering women and children in cold blood to ostensibly move towards political goals.
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10-19-2023 , 10:53 AM
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/statu...03713285206315


Trump's attorney Sydney Powell is pleading guilty and will be testifying against trump.
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