Watching the series Painkiller on Netflix last.

https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/81095069

Amazes me how this family never saw a jail cell

OOPS... The Truth Hurts.

Tucker always reminds me of a villain in an 80s John Hughes film.

Don't lie, you know this is your favourite movie of all time.

Damn straight. I even did a review of it
https://www.imdb.com/review/rw2467214/?ref_=tt_urv

Hahaha. Very good. Did you actually write that?

Edit: just saw corpus_vile in that link. Nice one!

Thanks

After my Irish buddy showed me that trailer, it took him about 2 hours to convince me that was a real film an not a joke/parody trailer.

I only mention he was Irish as I find it hard to believe anyone outside of Ireland has ever heard of that film.

I was in stitches all through it, a mate of mine who was an mma fighter introduced me to it back in the day and for the first half hour I too thought it was a parody until I realised it...wasn't.

This exchange hasn't gotten enough love, and I am truly impressed that CV wrote a review of this movie a decade ago.

This guy is an Irish JCVD. That competition looks like the Kumite in Bloodsport.

I'm still confused because it's odd for an Irish guy in Ireland to describe someone as "my Irish buddy." Honestly I glossed over the rest of the post because I'm wondering if this is some kind of Banshees of Inisherin situation.

How odd would it be for a Russian living in Britain to say?

Murderous baby killer Lucy Letby found guilty on seven counts of baby murder and six counts of attempted baby murder.
Will almost certainly get a whole life tariff.
https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2023/0818...51-lucy-letby/

Hospital executives ignored numerous warnings re Letby and tried to silence the doctors who warned them she might be a baby murderer.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66120934

She looks like this dutch nurse, could be her cousin. They both allegedly murdered many babies. There isn't a single piece of hard evidence in lucys case. The Dutch nurse was later found to be innocent and in prison for 10 years. I think Lucy did it but there are some doubts.

did you know about this case? the similarities are astonishing. ( my first impression)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_de_Berk

I wasn't aware of the De Berk case, no thanks for the info. There was a totality of evidence against Letby, I followed the case a bit and cases are judged by the totality of evidence, not piecemeal.

First I thought she is clearly guilty but now when I hear about all these crazy conditions it could be many things. A dirty chaotic understaffed hospital with lying doctors idk. It was def understaffed.

I can't say for sure she is guilty and no-one can say that with 100% certainty. It does look like she is somewhat. I would relieve her of her duty and have her stay away from patients and monitor her and try to figure out a way to find out for certain.

Here is a guy that thinks the same.
https://www.chimpinvestor.com/post/d...letby-innocent

Put it this way, I am more certain Holtzclaw is innocent than her.
There have been many miscarriages of justice in the past.

Sure, I thought it was a jury.
The coincidences are telling but idk if that cluster cannot be explained by other factors. I look into it more in the future for sure. Have only heard about it today.

Drug Runners to Be Shot ‘Stone Cold Dead'

Horrific story in it's own right but the key political problem is the same one it always is: institutions and managers not being required to report to some independent investigative authority. They let their concrns for reputational damage get in the way of taking reported issues seriously.

Instiitutions have to have a statutory responsibility to report accussations of serious crimes to the police (or some other prescribed official route). They must not be allowed to contol investigations. Any attempt to prevent openness/cooperation with the prescribed authorities must carry personal criminal liability.

More specifically. Doctors should trump managers when it comes to anything to do with patient care.

I can imagine the mediation those consultants had: "I'm sorry if I offend you with my very strong suspicion you're a baby murderer".
Anyway they whole life tariff-ed her, which everyone saw coming anyway. Letby refused to attend court.

HEAR HEAR!

It is odd that Letby wasn’t immediately moved to some other role, as soon as a doctor raised suspicions. This presumably would have been possible because it did eventually happen later on. I would have thought managers concerns for reputational damage would lead them to act too quickly in these situations, rather than too slowly. I’m sure there are plenty of perverse incentives in play (there always are in these kinds of institutions) but I would guess it was probably more an issue of rank incompetence from individual members of management. Even if they were acting purely cynically the best move would be to have quietly sidelined Letby early on I’d have thought.

She had a plumber testify about a smell and...that was it. And an accusation that a gang of four doctors conspired against her. That was her entire defence. She lied several times and kept reports on the murdered infants and doctored reports before an imminent attack. You're right, nobody can be 100% certain but courts don't need to be. Jury needs to be convinced bard, not convinced with 100% absolute certainty. It's impossible to know with 100% certainty, by and large.

Broadly speaking , way too many coincidences have to occur for Letby to be innocent. She's guilty imo even if she does look insanely normal.

I suspect that a fear of reputational damage actually makes management stupid in the sense they try to hand wave it away or see it in terms of reputational damage wrt Letby's grievance rather than the suspicious rate of infant mortality. Something broadly similar happened with serial killer nurse Charles Cullen who murdered dozens and possibly hundreds of patients. He kept finding employment despite suspicion in several different hospitals that he was murdering patients.
Such cases bizarrely seem to bring about a reluctance to act on the part of management of such institutions.

Yes that makes sense. People just hoping for the best, rather than acting rationally. I’d never heard of Charles Cullen before, pretty horrific stuff.