LOL @ Luckbox and his ridiculous ****ing word games.

Nope, you don't actually know. You don't know if those anecdotes are true, the studies and reports are correct, and that the videos are accurate.

Hey, isn't this fun? Makes for such great conversation when we just decide at random when to declare something as unknowable.

Ok I don't know.

I don't know that smoking causing cancer either fwiw.

Luckbox, do u believe your parents are your real parents just base on what they told u ?

Hey, looks like your grasping the ridiculousness of the "argument" you made! Now let's roll the tape back to this:

So LB realizes he can't really make the argument that this isn't at a fairly high level of confidence, because there was more information available than he realized. Of course he should have been aware of it, since it was at the front of the article that he said he read. When I point that out:

He's back to this:

And around in circles we go.

Your word games are getting tiresome, and quite transparent.

Hey MSchu, is there a political point you're trying to make here, or does this belong in some kind of movie thread in a different forum?

No I have other reasons

One of your mistakes is thinking that I care any way whatsoever about this rape story. I looked at the article and did indeed read it, but don't mistake me saying I read it for thinking that I read it very closely. I wasn't on much sleep yesterday and was probably playing poker at the time.

If you want to have a high degree of confidence that the story is true then please feel free. Truthfully it probably is like 95% true. Definitely not high enough to bet my life on like with Paraguay though.

No, none of the points I've made in any way, shape, or form are affected by how much you do or do not care about the rape story. The fact that you don't care about it just makes it all the weirder that you felt the need to drop your "No one here does actually know." hot take in the first place. And even weirder that when shown you should have noticed the information, rather than simply saying you didn't read it closely, which is fine, you decided to loop back to "No one here does actually know."

Anyway, as it seems the word games are over at last, I plan to move on.

I didn't loop back. For some reason you expected me to be like "oh sorry I guess some people do know"....except they still don't. I've haven't played any word games here and my position has been very consistent and the only thing I've done is backtrack slightly on what I can say I know.

No. This was reported on right wing media, which means most of you never saw it, but the mother did an interview on Telemundo and said she didn't want to press charges and the American media wasn't being honest. And during the trial she asked for leniency, and the judge actually gave it, as the 25 years her boyfriend was sentenced was on the lower end of the expected range.

I doubt the doctor and mother could communicate at all as they probably didn't speak any common language. But based on what is known it definitely appears the doctor going public was her pursing her own activism, and it is quite possible this whole thing would have gone away quietly without anyone being charged with anything if she hadn't done so.

She doesn't say anything about the doctor, but she does defend the guy-- apparently her boyfriend-- and said he didn't do anything. She doesn't say that the media is being dishonest but she does say that everything that is being said against him is a lie.

Definitely not betting my life vs $5 on this story being true now.

sup

Wait, your saw an interview with the mother of the girl, and you think that makes the story less likely to be true?

I don't know what has been said about the 'boyfriend' apart from the fact that he had sex with a 10 year old girl. What am I missing here?

What exactly was the media being dishonest about? I thought the story was that a very young pregnant girl had to go to a different state to get an abortion.
Was something about that untrue?

I also don't know how you think it matters that the mother of the girl didn't want to press charges. She wasn't the victim.

The mother is denying it?

She's probably in denial or seriously screwed up or both, but if you think it doesn't lessen the odds that something fishy is occuring then idk what I could say to convince you otherwise.

I was repeating what I remember the mother being reported as saying (relying on 3rd parties to translate and interpret what she actually said as I obviously dont speak Spanish). I trust Luckbox gave an accurate translation, and all things considered my recollection of what was reported was fairly close. I also am very confident I knew much more about the actual details of the case then all the other people commenting who were relying on liberal MSM "reporting," which left out most of the inconvenient details.

Anyways, the point was given all this circumstantial evidence, it seems VERY UNLIKELY the mother gave her blessing for the doctor to go public, which is the point I was making in the post I was responding to. In fact, if she had been willing to play ball and lean into the media's culture war narrative, she probably could have opened a GoFundMe and raised millions.

What exactly is the mother denying? That her daughter was pregnant and got an abortion in another state? That was the whole story as far as I was concerned.

The story was not that the mother gave permission to make the story public. That was just what someone here figured. What part of the story did the MSM get wrong?

Your question is completely irrelevant to any point I am making. Being wrong and leaving out inconvenient details that dont fit the preferred narrative are 2 completely different things. The liberal MSM often does both, but in this case I don't know what they got "wrong." Except for the very broad strokes of the case, and how they were politically molded to fit the culture war debates, I don't actually know what happened. And you don't either. And this is very intentional.

join the conversation

You said that the mother said "the American media wasn't being honest". All I'm asking is what they were being dishonest about.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make, but I wasn't asking anything about that.

The only thing I heard was that a 10 (?) year old girl was forced to go to a different state for an abortion. If the MSM was claiming anything in addition to that I didn't hear about it. If this story is true, I don't know what exactly you're upset about.

She's denying that the guy is guilty of anything but she was never asked in that Telemundo segment "well how did she get pregnant?" or talk about her daughter being pregnant.

Again-- I still think she was, but if it 95% happened now it only 93% happened.

She is asked "¿Cómo es entonces que él dice que sí que la violó?" "How is then it that he said that yes he raped her?" And she says "no sé. no puedo responder a esa pergunta" ..."I don't know I'm not able to answer that question".

Guess that means you would require a wager of $10 against your life. After you can visit Paraguant.

All the best.

But didn't they interview her as the mother of the child who got an abortion in another state? They had to identify who they were interviewing. The fact that they had a woman there claiming to be the mother of the girl in question seems to make it more likely the story is true, not less.

I just watched the beginning of the video. My Spanish is not good enough to follow the talking, but the printed story ID over the beginning of the video says "talk with the mother of the girl who had an abortion". Seems to confirm that there was a girl who had an abortion.

That's what Telemundo is saying. It's not anything the alleged mother said.