What's the message?

Well thank god the rape actually happened. Great news.

Wasn't she pregnant?

Why do you care so much about how an Indiana Jones movie does at the box office? Why should any of us care?

yes

Nobody here actually knows.

True

Wasn't it widely reported that she was pregnant?

Apparently so. It's the first I'm hearing about the story and it's not like I really doubt it myself or care or have any reason to doubt it-- 10 year olds do get raped and get pregnant so it's not like they would need to make one up to score some political point, but the point still stands that no one here knows.

Shouldn't even "Other News" be at least somewhat related to Politics?

Did you even bother to read the article that steamraise linked, or did you just assume that his rather mediocre summary of the article was the whole story? (Speaking of which, steamraise, I thought you were supposed to be adding some actual content to posts, not just links and quotes.) For us to "not actually know", we'd have to think a whole lot of news articles were made up, including the ones about the doctor who provided the abortion being fined by the Indiana Medical Licensing Board. Steamraise buried the lede, which was in the very first paragraph of the article he linked:

I read it. And I said that I have no reason to doubt the veracity of it-- other than that it's just words on my phone.

It was widely reported that she had an abortion....which would be tough to do if she wasn't pregnant.

I imagine the Republicans were saying that the story was totally made up. That's giving them the benefit of the doubt, because the other alternative is that the 10 year old girl had 'consensual sex'.

Well, one movie was shelved by Disney for several years (they didn't just refuse to distribute it themselves, but they did everything in their power to ensure the movie never saw the light of day, and it was a long process to get the rights back), and the other movie was heavily promoted by Disney. So, given Disney's placement in the culture wars, any L that Disney takes is framed as a W for the right.

This is on top of the progressive left generally being framed by the right as being pro child abuse, so Disney burying a movie exposing the horrors of child abuse fits into this general framing.

Hope that helps how the relative fortune of the movies could be viewed in a political context.

This is news to me. What is the movie?

"Sound of Freedom."

It is being heavily advertised on "right wing media" as a movie progressives dont want you to see, and the progressive left media is responding by more or less ignoring the movie (which is why you don't know it even exists), which just reinforces the right wing narrative.

So here we are.

I have heard of that, just saw it was number 1 at the box office this week. Didn't know what it was about though, I see almost no advertising of any sort and haven't been to the movies for awhile.

Don't know why progressives wouldn't want people to see a movie about someone rescuing sex slaves, but I guess it could depend on how it's framed.

You have got me curious though, I'm going to look for something to read about the whole story.

I'll see it. Personally what turns me off on the thing is how religious the guy is and promoting the movie at mega churches talking about taking on Satan head on, etc... Similar to religious people not wanting to see a movie by an atheist spouting anti god stuff even if the movie has a good message not relating to atheism.
Still, I'll eventually check it out of curiosity and he's brought up adrenochrome in some of his promo stuff so the conspiracy addict in me cannot resist.

You need to sprinkle in some alt right derpy content into your algorithms. They've been doing a good push promoting it.

LOL, what a bunch of horseshit. So you went down this road because it's all just words on your phone - I guess this means nobody actually knows about anything they weren't eye witness to themselves? Any reason you chose to point that our for this particular item, which you apparently have no reason to doubt?

Great. Is that what he's posting about? Who knows, but that's why I asked the question.

No. There are degrees to this sort of stuff. If the news reports that there was an earthquake in Turkey that killed 20,000 people then we should accept that as true. If they report that some kid's lost cat came back after 6 months missing then we should also accept that as true. If they report that something happened to some individual that has political implications then it's important to be aware that we have no idea whether that actually happened or not.

As far as the Indiana abortion story, I remember the doctor in question who performed the abortion was reprimanded for violating patient privacy. I think we can call agree it is not a doctors place to insert themselves into the culture wars by disclosing private patient information, which is exactly what she did.

Of course both the left and right wing medias completely misframed the issue for their own political ends. The right wing questioned whether the rape/abortion even happened at all, and the left wing media framed her being censored as an attack on her performing the abortion itself.

Based on the convo in this thread, it appears no one in the convo actually knows the real facts or why the doctor was reprimanded, which is typical because partisan media does such a poor job of stating actual facts when "reporting" stories. Yes, if you do your own research and dig deep enough you can often eventually find the actual facts. But the partisan media knows very few people will actually do this. The general public being misinformed on so many things is a feature, not a bug, of the system.

I think this is Luckbox's point, although maybe he chose a bad example to prove the point (and maybe not).

I didn't really have a point, other than responding to Rococo's post to point out that he actually has no idea. Like I said, I'm willing to believe it because unfortunately this sort of stuff (kids getting raped) does happen and I have to imagine that the conservatives calling it false had to be a little torn because on one hand you have the obvious need to have abortion services in cases like this and on the other hand the alleged rapist is Guatemalan.

True. My assumption is that the patient gave permission.

I am seeing ads for it constantly.

There sure are. And I'd think that when multiple media sources of all political stripes reported that the doctor was suspended for disclosing information about the abortion, the fact that the girl was pregnant would have a degree of certainty that wouldn't inspire you to suggest that "Nobody here actually knows."