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11-03-2021 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I think this was more a vote against the Dem's. People frustrated that once again lots of talk amounts to little that is tangible in their lives.

I think had the Dem's moved expeditiously on the Biden Agenda and the citizens were actually seeing and enjoying the benefits in their lives, I think they vote to keep the status quo.

This is where the Republicans are much better. They realized the benefit of getting Trump checks in peoples hands. Give them something real they will remember.

Dem's have given up on that. They promise the world while actually planning to give almost nothing. Biden actually just bold faced told the donors not to worry as "nothing would fundamentally change". It was never in the 'real' plan to make meaningful changes.

Instead the Dem's rolled out the same old playbook. 'LESSER OF TWO EVILS. We need high voter turnout as Youngkin is Trump!!!!'


it is awesome seeing the MSM do the clean up work this morning though as I have seen consistently them talking about 'is this vote a rejection of Progressive ideas and policy'.

The MSM are so overwhelming corrupt on this. Joe Biden WINS on promising the world on a ton of Progressive planks. Does NOT deliver and when the Dems start losing they act as if the 'ideas' are unappealing and it has nothing to do with the lack of delivery.

So sad. And exactly why Trump resonated with his Fake News, don't trust the media stuff. Even though Trump used it speciously he nailed that people increasingly did not trust nor should they trust the MSM, which is clearly a propaganda arm of the donors who pay their salaries.
I think this is a good, concise explanation of why Youngkin and Friends won last night.
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11-03-2021 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Big day for anti-critical race theory! Whatever that is!
In a nutshell, CRT is racism dressed in a white lab coat instead of white bed sheets.

Hope that helps.
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11-03-2021 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
In a nutshell, CRT is racism dressed in a white lab coat instead of white bed sheets.

Hope that helps.
Nothing old Lag is more terrified of than science.
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11-03-2021 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Big day for anti-critical race theory! Whatever that is!
its amusing because the anti-CRT crowd seemed to lose in the school board elections, maybe because some of those people actually knew what it was(or wasn't).. but it seemed to be a driving force among the uneducated in the VA gubernatorial.
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11-03-2021 , 12:30 PM
Although there were several factors that made the race close, I think he would have still lost if it were not for two men who put him over the top. That superintendent of schools and Merrick Garland.
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11-03-2021 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
In a nutshell, CRT is racism dressed in a white lab coat instead of white bed sheets.

Hope that helps.
So just a coincidence that white southerners were the ones most passionate about wearing the sheets and now the most passionate about CRT?
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11-03-2021 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
In a nutshell, CRT is racism dressed in a white lab coat instead of white bed sheets.

Hope that helps.
One could(and they did) apply pretty much all of the same criticisms to mlk fwiw
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11-03-2021 , 03:10 PM
its silly name calling thingy

A very bad battleground for progressives and forces of reason
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11-03-2021 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
This was a vote on education and Biden Will the Dems learn anything from this? Nope
kinda weird to be mad at biden since he hasn't been able to pass the bill. its not on him.

thankfully im kinda relieved the first bill at its initial stage wasn't passed, i was shocked a lot of more mod dems were on board with it from the get go as well
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11-03-2021 , 03:37 PM
I'm curious what you don't like that was in the first bill?

And I don't buy it one bit that Biden is not behind (or at least providing quiet support) to those blocking the bill. This game is an old tired one. Biden says to the Dem's now, vote for the 1st bill as I have Manchin's commitment that we will get the second bill done and instead Sinema rotates in as the villain to kill it or Coons. Biden plays surprised and dumb like he thought he had it done but anyone fooled by this anymore is just ...


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11-03-2021 , 03:53 PM
same reason trump tried to do whatever the hell tried to push with that bill when dems had control.

I really don't believe biden can legit do much more. you think he can legit push his previous bills easily? like I said I was surprised moderate dems were all for it at first,.


the issue with the first bill is the same issue some have been saying, if we are gonna tax businesses, tax businesses who are making insane profits, tax the billionaires and mean it, not saying gut them, im saying lets fix these tax issues where if you make 9 figures you get to do whatever ****ing tax loophole you want to do while a business who barely makes 6 figures has to legit quantity wise pay more "different" taxes. the %s that small businesses pay as opposed to corps is kinda insane,. im not saying dollar amt im just saying in the %s.

i dont even own a business and dont know why tf anyone would really want to but certain things need to get looked at seriously and in the first bill it wasnt wrt what i discussed imo
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11-03-2021 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Big day for anti-critical race theory! Whatever that is!
It sure is.
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11-03-2021 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
In a nutshell, CRT is racism dressed in a white lab coat instead of white bed sheets.

Hope that helps.
Had you ever heard of CRT before it started trending recently? I ask because it seems like a lot of people have strong opinions on it even though they seem to have never heard of it and know nothing about it.

Full disclosure, I consider myself a longtime anti-racist. I've read a lot of books about racism written from the anti-racism perspective. I didn't really know what CRT was until it started trending. I had heard it mentioned here and there but I didn't realize it was its own distinct thing until it suddenly became a hot topic.

I won't ask you what you think CRT is, because I know you don't really know. But you seem to think you know enough to know it is some form of racism. What is your justification for that charged accusation? And why do you think it is associated with hard science?
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11-03-2021 , 07:23 PM
They just can’t help themselves. And they wonder why so many are finally tuning them out.

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11-03-2021 , 07:56 PM
lol, they are insane. I think Picasso once said that women are either goddesses or doormats. Let's scrub him from history.
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11-03-2021 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Nothing old Lag is more terrified of than science.
I science. Not sure what science has to do with CRT. Maybe you can explain it to me in the appropriate thread.
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11-03-2021 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
So just a coincidence that white southerners were the ones most passionate about wearing the sheets and now the most passionate about CRT?
I'm old-school I suppose: I think racism is bad no matter who is promoting it.
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11-03-2021 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
One could(and they did) apply pretty much all of the same criticisms to mlk fwiw
+1
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11-03-2021 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Had you ever heard of CRT before it started trending recently? I ask because it seems like a lot of people have strong opinions on it even though they seem to have never heard of it and know nothing about it.
I learned about it a bit over a year ago. I followed a quite lively thread about it in this Forum.

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Full disclosure, I consider myself a longtime anti-racist. I've read a lot of books about racism written from the anti-racism perspective. I didn't really know what CRT was until it started trending. I had heard it mentioned here and there but I didn't realize it was its own distinct thing until it suddenly became a hot topic.

I won't ask you what you think CRT is, because I know you don't really know. But you seem to think you know enough to know it is some form of racism. What is your justification for that charged accusation? And why do you think it is associated with hard science?
I don't think it is associated with hard science.

My introduction to its blatant racism was when a little over a year ago the Smithsonian Institute displayed a graphic in their museum that showed the core elements of CRT.

In a nutshell, pretty much all of the putative virtues of modern Western Civilization (e.g. critical thinking, the nuclear family, hard work) were all depicted as being rooted in racism.

After about a week, the Smithsonian removed the display.

I'll try to find and post a picture of it.
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11-03-2021 , 09:25 PM
Some friends of mine had a school bus on dead tour back in the day--and on the marquee up front it read: We've Come for Your Daughters. And they meant it
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11-03-2021 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
Some friends of mine had a school bus on dead tour back in the day--and on the marquee up front it read: We've Come for Your Daughters. And they meant it
Most rock is pretty disgusting, in my opinion. Rap is even worse imo

(I'm not talking about "light rock" or "disco" or ABBA-esq stuff so much, but so-called hard rock.)
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11-03-2021 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I'm old-school I suppose: I think racism is bad no matter who is promoting it.
Yes. And lucky for you, you happened to be born near the exact point where black people started being racist and white southerners, despite their history, started being correct on race!

Of course that’s not some cosmic coincidence. Racist jackasses defended segregation with the same fine tuned arguments you are using:” sure slavery was wrong, but civil rights is also bad.”
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11-03-2021 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Yes. And lucky for you, you happened to be born near the exact point where black people started being racist and white southerners started being correct on race!
Huh? When did I say or imply that black people became racist? What are you babbling about?

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Of course that’s not some cosmic coincidence. Racist jackasses defended segregation with the same fine tuned arguments you are using:” sure slavery was wrong, but civil rights is also bad.”
Wat??

Let's do a "talk-back" here: Please quote my "fine-tuned argument" that I am using. I was unaware I even gave one. Thanks.
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11-03-2021 , 09:56 PM
Are you really this slow? We all agree white southerners were wrong on slavery. We all agree white southerners were wrong on Jim Crow. We all agree white southerners were wrong on civil rights. White southerners being wrong on race related stuff is standard.

White southerners are the most concerned about critical race theory and are the ones who think it’s racist. You think they are correct and for you not to be wrong “right now” has to be a very special moment because it’s the first time in our history that white southerners have not been completely wrong on a race issue. Non idiots call that fine tuning.
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11-03-2021 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Most rock is pretty disgusting, in my opinion. Rap is even worse imo

(I'm not talking about "light rock" or "disco" or ABBA-esq stuff so much, but so-called hard rock.)
Overall though--I still wouldn't take the various music scenes over say the last 100yrs vs the organized religions in a Who's caused more pain and suffering contest. One side has surely danced around the lines a bit with some notable really bad examples--but one has had apparently no qualms about going deep down into the single digits. A whole different level really.
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