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Donald Trump loses the election and mass violence happens because of his supporters?
28 66.67%
Donald Trump wins the election and mass violence happens because of his detractors?
14 33.33%

09-27-2020 , 07:07 PM
Donald Trump loses the election and mass violence happens because of his supporters?

Donald Trump wins the election and mass violence happens because of his detractors?
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09-27-2020 , 07:19 PM
I'm not which of the following I think is more likely:
-Violence happening because of his supporters given that he loses
-Violence happening because of his detractors given that he wins

But since Trump losing is more likely than Trump winning, and I don't think the above 2 differ by too much, the overall probability for Trump losing and his supporters getting violent is greater in my estimation.
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09-27-2020 , 09:28 PM
This one shouldn't even be close.

Don't lie to yourselves, boys. When Trump inevitably loses this upcoming election, that sound you'll hear is an enormous sigh of relief coming from the collective mouths of Republicans everywhere.

If Trump wins, that's because something shady happened, and no plate glass window or unsuspecting white person in a vaguely red hat will be safe.
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09-27-2020 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
When Trump inevitably loses this upcoming election, that sound you'll hear is an enormous sigh of relief coming from the collective mouths of Republicans everywhere.
LOL. Inso0 already laying the groundwork for "actually none of us ever liked Trump anyway" just like GWB voters
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09-27-2020 , 09:37 PM
Inso0's likeability ratings.

GWB > Obama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump >>>> new goofyballer > mother****ing buses in my way during commute.
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09-27-2020 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
When Trump inevitably loses this upcoming election, that sound you'll hear is an enormous sigh of relief coming from the collective mouths of Republicans everywhere.
I don't understand. All these people are going to vote for Trump and then breath a huge sigh of relief when the candidate they voted for loses. How does that work?
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09-27-2020 , 10:30 PM
It's really not that hard to understand. HRC received fewer votes than Obama did.

I'll go on record saying that Trump will receive far fewer votes than 2016 Trump, and Biden will receive significantly more than HRC.

You guys are here openly hoping for communism and whatnot, so it's not really a stretch to believe that SOME Trump voters are true believers. Different strokes for different folks.

Maybe it's just me. I'll toss an election night stream on a side monitor to watch the show.
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09-27-2020 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
You guys are here openly hoping for communism and whatnot
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09-27-2020 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Inso0's likeability ratings.

GWB > Obama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump >>>> new goofyballer > mother****ing buses in my way during commute.
learn2drive
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09-27-2020 , 10:36 PM
On the contrary. I think many will do just that.


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Originally Posted by Joe T's
learn2drive

Right turns in front of a bus are illegal, friend. If you don't believe me, just sit behind one for three entire light cycles like I do and read the sign on the back while you wait.
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09-27-2020 , 10:41 PM
It's genuinely funny to read your posts next to Shifty's (or redbuck's) in the Trump thread.

Shifty: "Look at these rallies, energy and enthusiasm is off the charts, the left is totally desperate in this election"
Inso0: "Trump is going to lose by a lot and most Republicans are happy to be rid of him"

lol. idk which one of you (if either) is right, but it sure as hell ain't both!
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09-27-2020 , 10:43 PM
Three nominations to the SCOTUS.

Trump has outlived his usefulness and people can stop pretending now.
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09-27-2020 , 10:46 PM
lol, Inso0 having a real one.
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09-27-2020 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Three nominations to the SCOTUS.

Trump has outlived his usefulness and people can stop pretending now.
He needs to step aside so Biden can get busy cutting social security and medicare.
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09-28-2020 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
This one shouldn't even be close.

Don't lie to yourselves, boys. When Trump inevitably loses this upcoming election, that sound you'll hear is an enormous sigh of relief coming from the collective mouths of Republicans everywhere.

If Trump wins, that's because something shady happened, and no plate glass window or unsuspecting white person in a vaguely red hat will be safe.
As an independent I kinda agree...

Liberals seem way more triggered. Conservatives will be angry but then they’ll go back to life’s responsibilities and all will be fine.

If liberals lose they will have nothing in life. No job no prospects. Their sole focus in life will be hating orange man and anyone who supports orange man.

Also paid protestors are a thing.. it seems like mostly a left thing
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09-28-2020 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rjr777

Also paid protestors are a thing.. it seems like mostly a left thing
What percentage of people who attend protests do you believe are paid? And who pays the most protesters on an annual basis?
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09-28-2020 , 09:16 AM
If Trump wins and it is in large part due to him stealing the election with mail in voter games, the unrest and protests will be massive and sustained. Lots of bad actors will take advantage for property damage, looting etc but deaths will remain relatively small.

The most deaths you may see in that scenario will be in clashes with Trump militia who roll into the midst of them purposely looking to create conflict.


If Trump loses, you will see far less unrest in the form of protests, but far more purposeful killings. You will see the white supremacist groups and nationalists killing and the same type of Trump extremists we have seen going on killing sprees.

I also think you might see someone take a shot a Biden due to a belief he stole the election.
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09-28-2020 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
What percentage of people who attend protests do you believe are paid? And who pays the most protesters on an annual basis?
No clue..

All I know is they are organized
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09-28-2020 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
No clue..

All I know is they are organized
What % is George Soros funding these things?

I have my opinion, that's all I'll say.
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09-29-2020 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
No clue..

All I know is they are organized
Huge difference between organising a protest and paying people to protest.
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09-29-2020 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
This one shouldn't even be close.

Don't lie to yourselves, boys. When Trump inevitably loses this upcoming election, that sound you'll hear is an enormous sigh of relief coming from the collective mouths of Republicans everywhere.

If Trump wins, that's because something shady happened, and no plate glass window or unsuspecting white person in a vaguely red hat will be safe.
While left-wing violence is certainly a thing and will perhaps be a rising threat in some hypothetical future, a prediction should be rooted in facts.

The facts are that far-right extremism has been a consistent and growing threat for the last three decades, to the extent that most law enforcement and intelligence communities in Western democracies now place it at the top or in joint first place on lists of extremists threats and terrorist threats. This means that from most serious sources, far-right extremism is at the capacity or have surpassed the capacity of Islamist terrorists in terms of capacity, willingness, actual attacks and plans for more attacks in Western countries. There is no reason to be blind to the fact that Trump is still a popular name in these circles.

Left-wing extremism, in comparison, is from a threat perspective still a blip on the radar. Which is not a reason to ignore it, but it is a reason to stay in reality.

What is perhaps adding a lot of fuel to the fire, is that it has become politically convenient for several current political appointments in the US to exaggerate the threat of left-wing extremism and downplay the threat of right-wing extremism. Those who like their facts dry, such as Cristopher Wray, seem to walk a precariously thin line in the current US political climate.

Last edited by tame_deuces; 09-29-2020 at 04:22 AM.
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09-29-2020 , 08:32 AM
I think Inso0 would argue over the definition of 'violence' and suggest the mass protests with the anarchists amongst them opportunistically doing rioting and theft equals 'mass violence' and thus numerically the left would do 'more' mass violence.

If mass murder is the bar however, ...if what law enforcement considers a threat is the bar however, and not what politicians and pundits try to label it, ...then Inso0 is right. This shouldn't be even close. You could call in the FBI experts, the Homeland Experts and any other intel agency and they ALL say, as you point out, that there is no comparison. Far right violence threat tops the list and is being actively engaged and shut down similar to Islamic terror attacks and far left violence just is not a thing in that sphere.
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09-29-2020 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
While left-wing violence is certainly a thing and will perhaps be a rising threat in some hypothetical future, a prediction should be rooted in facts.

The facts are that far-right extremism has been a consistent and growing threat for the last three decades, to the extent that most law enforcement and intelligence communities in Western democracies now place it at the top or in joint first place on lists of extremists threats and terrorist threats. This means that from most serious sources, far-right extremism is at the capacity or have surpassed the capacity of Islamist terrorists in terms of capacity, willingness, actual attacks and plans for more attacks in Western countries. There is no reason to be blind to the fact that Trump is still a popular name in these circles.

Left-wing extremism, in comparison, is from a threat perspective still a blip on the radar. Which is not a reason to ignore it, but it is a reason to stay in reality.

What is perhaps adding a lot of fuel to the fire, is that it has become politically convenient for several current political appointments in the US to exaggerate the threat of left-wing extremism and downplay the threat of right-wing extremism. Those who like their facts dry, such as Cristopher Wray, seem to walk a precariously thin line in the current US political climate.
Yeah obviously the right should expect a reaction on the left at some point if the right can’t contain their own extremist ....
And trump did a terrible containment job about it .
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09-29-2020 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yeah obviously the right should expect a reaction on the left at some point if the right can’t contain their own extremist ....
And trump did a terrible containment job about it .
But what we will most likely see if trump 'wins' is that the left continue to protest overwhelmingly peacefully in increasing numbers while the far right get more organised in their violent response and actions. We will also likely see an increasingly draconian response to the protestors from trump & co.

It's a horror show that only successfully chucking trump out can avoid. Or I suppose trump clearly genuinely winning but that a whole nother horror show.
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09-29-2020 , 03:58 PM
I would protest for money but I get no job offers

One time they told me I would get a milkshake if i protested but it was just cement in a cup
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