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I don't really believe there is such a thing as "fair due process".

I would be happy to streamline everything and just live with the fact that 10% or so of those convicted were innocent. IMO one guilty person going free is at least as bad as one innocent person being put in prison.

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05-10-2024 , 02:36 PM

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No there is such a thing and due to its fallibility, it's absolutely vital that it's fair for everyone as that includes you and me as well as the worst of the worst. Yes it absolutely sucks when the guilty go free no argument there.

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05-10-2024 , 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by corpus vile

Due process is what is currently happening to Donald Trump. It certainly doesn't seem fair to me.

Those with no resources can already get away with anything,while poor people are almost always convicted.
Might as well lose the expensive sham and just railroad everyone regardless of their means.

I would be happy to take my chances at being one of the wrongly imprisoned to have every violent criminal permanently removed from society.

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05-10-2024 , 02:41 PM

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57 On Red

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I really, really disagree. Railroading people is never a good idea. This notion is a root cause of a lot of bad policing. And railroading people justifiably diminishes public confidence and has a corrosive effect on relations between the police and the communities they serve.

It's called 'noble cause corruption', and it's not good and it just leads to overturns on appeal (even if they blindingly obviously did it, like the Bridgewater Four in England).

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05-10-2024 , 02:42 PM

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Due process is what is currently happening to Donald Trump. It certainly doesn't seem fair to me.

Having your day in court is fair. As opposed to being dragged out and shot or getting a blatant show trial where the conviction is a foregone conclusion.

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05-10-2024 , 02:42 PM

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It's called 'noble cause corruption', and it's not good and it just leads to overturns on appeal (even if they blindingly obviously did it, like the Bridgewater Four in England).

Yep, so no more appeals for basic violent crimes.

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05-10-2024 , 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by corpus vile

Having your day in court is fair. As opposed to being dragged out and shot or getting a blatant show trial where the conviction is a foregone conclusion.

But now we have blatant show trials where acquittal is a forgone conclusion.

When someone is on tape admitting to sexually assaulting teenage beauty pageant contestants, I'm fine with the immediate punishment of getting dragged out and shot.

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05-10-2024 , 03:12 PM

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King Spew

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I closed the I/P thread a few minutes ago.

I will not allow I/P discussion to be injected into ANY other thread (including this thread) without a deletion and a ban.

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05-10-2024 , 03:14 PM

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lol

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05-10-2024 , 03:31 PM

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wtf

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05-10-2024 , 03:33 PM

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...Okay. I disagree. Could you do me a favour and um, promise you'll never run for office as in any office?

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05-10-2024 , 03:42 PM

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lol

Heh it's gonna be hard for you to hold your water in this regard innit?

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05-10-2024 , 03:44 PM

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Probably not for long.

In fact, I'm going to self-ban for a month and see how that goes.

you are a good man

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05-10-2024 , 03:49 PM

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Victor

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Heh it's gonna be hard for you to hold your water in this regard innit?

nah we can just talk about lol Ukraine

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05-10-2024 , 03:53 PM

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nah we can just talk about lol Ukraine

Yes I'm sure you'll link a bunch of tweets highlighting how it's really all about poor hard done by Putin against the Nazi scourge, which I look forward to with complete apathy.

You'll prolly end up getting that one closed too.

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05-10-2024 , 04:07 PM

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Victor

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I am sure you will make a bunch of lies like all good liberals

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05-10-2024 , 04:14 PM

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King Spew

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Are u admitting to being a good liberal now, V ?

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05-10-2024 , 04:24 PM

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Victor

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I myself dabbled in liberalism once

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05-10-2024 , 04:25 PM

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Apparently the software doesn't allow people with green names to self-ban, so I guess that I'll just have to show some self-restraint. I'll check back in a month.

i know must be stressful now with the bankruptcy proceedings, godspeed rudoco

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05-10-2024 , 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Spew

I closed the I/P thread a few minutes ago.

I will not allow I/P discussion to be injected into ANY other thread (including this thread) without a deletion and a ban.

Thank you, seriously.

And Rococo, please don’t leave. You’re one of the nice things still around here.

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05-10-2024 , 06:21 PM

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Thank you, seriously.

And Rococo, please don’t leave. You’re one of the nice things still around here.

I don't think that dude changes his mind once it's made up.

This forum will die without him. Nobody is bigger than the forum, but he kinda is.

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05-10-2024 , 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Spew

I closed the I/P thread a few minutes ago.

I will not allow I/P discussion to be injected into ANY other thread (including this thread) without a deletion and a ban.

Why not ban the two users you deemed mainly responsible for the state of the thread?