Did he make it up? Is it false statement?

A for profit company like this is scary https://getplume.co/

I have no idea but its ok to question the explosion of kids that are identifying as trans and how quickly we want to jump into controversial treatments with no long term studies.

Its Ok to listen to the individuals that have gone through transitioning and now regret it and its also OK to listen to women that think its wrong to have to compete agianst biological males and share a locker room with them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PfsANvaueQ&t=15601s

this fella regrets it

Notice how trivial it was for me to figure out your unquoted source? Honestly, if you are lapping up Matt Walsh's attacks on trans people probably nothing is salvageable, but if you care go read this, slowly, twice: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/w...es-about-trans

Fresh off of being completely wrong about what the DSM says, the thread has now moved on to “legitimate” transgender people, a concept that isn’t at all supported by the DSM and is nonsensical on its face. How do you tell when a transgender person isn’t “legitimate?” Hard to say, but they must be a bunch of illegitimate trans kids because lozen’s feels tell him the rate of trans people is just too high.

See the difference between us when I am asked a question I reply and not put some quirky troll comment

I am still waiting on your conspiracy theories that we keep spouting .

See the difference is I read what you shared before giving an opinion on it. IF I had said its full of crap and lies and than said I never read it that would be plain idiotic like you are doing about a documentary .

Hey I do not agree with Matt on adults not getting trans treatments but we do not live in a fascist country were I tell him what he must believe

It's 100%. Since everyone has their own individual "gender", everyone is trans.

Well I certainly saw enough to figure out your unquoted source immediately. As I think I said in the other trans thread (which this discussion should probably be moved to), I watched several clips as well as read a number of summary articles about it to make a fairly informed opinion of the faux-documentary. Hopefully you also now see it for the filth that it is. Regardless, glad to hear you fully read and internalized the above link. Hopefully it affects your thinking.

Nope as your source is a trans activist and deep diving into her i looks like she believes in the controversial treatments for children but thanks for sharing

I am not discussing trans issues in the moderation anymore and keeping it to the trans thread

Clearly we need an entirely new forum to discuss the most critical political issue of our day.

That would be bizarre, but of course that's not what I said. Since apparently what I was saying was unclear, I'll clarify. I don't believe it's productive to have conversations about whether being transgender is a mental illness. Not whether there are some transgender people with a mental illness, but that everyone has one. That's not an issue for me because I think having a mental illness makes one lesser, but because I believe it's incorrect, and because it's an argument often used for the reasons I've articulated in the post you quoted, and will do so again momentarily. And I suggested nothing about trans people being locked away. What I said was "the problem with that is once you go down the mental disorder road, the suggestion by some will be that it needs to be treated through therapy or medication, and "cure" the person of being trans." Later on in the post, I suggested that some people use the mental illness argument because of bigotry, and others "use these beliefs to argue against any acceptance of transgender people in society on their own terms". Nothing about locking anyone away. And those two possibilities aren't the only ones, but they are in my opinion covering the vast majority of motive for those who argue that all transgender people are suffering from a mental illness.

As others have mentioned, I don't believe the DSM designation implies that all transgender people are suffering from mental illness.

There has been no "official stance" that I know of; I believe browser is asking for our input. That aside, I haven't seen anyone take that stance.

I find your interpretation of his position to be a pretty odd one, and certainly not one I had seen (or see now). But if his wording was unclear enough to make you think that was his stance, I believe he's clarified pretty clearly now that it isn't.

I suppose someone could, but it's not one I've seen anyone take.

There was zero stigmatization of mental health in my post. The rest of your post seems better suited for another thread.

Has there been a single post of yours in reply to browser's questions that wasn't trolling? Serious question, because I wasn't sure about the first couple posts. The last few have been much more obvious trolling.

This was a response to a Trolly post though. And there is truth to what I'm saying. If "gender" is a continuum/non-discrete, then the whole concept of trans/cis goes right out the window.

Gender dysphoria is only diagnosed when the person is suffering significant distress. If they aren't, then it's not medically categorisable. Transvestic disorder (usually AGP) is diagnosed differently but tends to come to notice due to relationship problems -- notably with the woman that the AGP man is married to. 'Transgender identity' by itself isn't a medical term, but, where medical treatment is demanded, there must be a diagnosable medical condition.

If you think it has a negative connotation, you are part of the problem.

Some people here are, including browser.

Who cares what the DSM says. It used to say gay people were mentally ill.

People who are gay aren't looking to get medicine and surgeries for it.
Medicines and surgeries are for people who have a physical or mental health issue.

If I say today I am trans and go into the women's locker room in my gym, would you find that I was a legitimate trans woman and have no problems with it? I have already detailed how I have been more comfortable around females for my entire life.

There is no trans thread, which is why these issues keep bubbling up.
There was one previously, and it was deliberately sabotaged by those who didn't want anything questioned.

If one shouldn't care what an authoritative manual like the DSM says, then why should anybody care what anybody has to say about anything?

It’s fair to question how authoritative the DSM is when it was utterly wrong about homosexuality in the past.

It is one thing to question it. It is another thing to just "not care" about what is has to say, as if it has no value whatsoever.

The DSM, just like any other source, is a product of the time it is written. You can look at it in hindsight and say "this whole text is worthless as thirteen pages in this 947 page manual are outdated", but that would be absurd.

Pretty much. But psychology has an awful history so it's even less worthwhile.

The problem isn't the DSM itself, but how people weaponize the DSM and mental health more broadly to constantly center conversations around what it putatively wrong about trans people. Of course there are plenty of supportive conversations one can have, but some people seem to be engaged in the medicalization of trans issues as a bludgeon.