I can't listen to stitcher as I don't have a subscription. Should I get one or what? What does it say?

Can you elaborate on who payed who and who took what back? I don't quite understand what you mean by that.
What I'm understanding is that the USA payed for the cartels and then took off with profits. If you mean that then you don't need to elaborate.

The Mexicans are making the US responsible for their suffering. The Cubans do too and the Haitians also.

They have modern slavery plants in the USA filled with illegal workers from South America. Mostly Mexicans, and this Ed Calderon guy calls it modern slavery. They didn't even get shut down during covid. They have no rights almost don't get payed and no insurance.

It's a 10 episode series on Cuba. It touches on the entire history from Spain to now but has a focus on the post revolution years.

Podcast required a subscription initially but they have just started to release the episodes for free every week. So you don't need to pay unless you want to hear all the episodes at once. The first ep is free for sure and I think they have released 2 more.

Also check out season 1 on the Iraq wars.

After the revolution Cuba kicked out the foreign corporate cartels and took back their land and resources. They paid these entities back in full. I believe they paid back the US gov a large check which the Americans never cashed lol.

That sounds interesting and i will take a look. I'm guessing they are doing the same thing as Spotify is doing, which is to attract customers with free content. Joe Rogan said his episodes are all free on Spotify. Idk if this is still the case.

Lol, I hope that check bounced, as the Americans had no right to stomp the Cuban economy into the ground in the first place. They paid enough already. Castro, Che and a few others realized what the corps/american government were doing to their people and started a revolution.
Imagine Africa did the same thing, which is to kick out the parasites which cripple their country and go marxist.


@lagtight, when do you realise who the real evil is?? Do you even realise, what the US is doing and who they were/are living on? And now? Every nanny, health care worker, maid, gardener and farm worker, and all the jobs that you Americans don't want to do, is done by cheap workers from South America. And that is all done a in a cruel and exploitative way. Yeah, but the true danger is Marxism. It's Satanism, LMAO. I know the commie bastards is all you fear. They are spitting in your evil exploitative soup, that's all. They are putting a ceiling in your no respect for human life, lifestyle, isn't that it..
No, no, deep down inside you, you know who the bad bully truly is.

Do you even realize that Che is/was viewed a freedom fighter and an idol for every rational person on earth? I'm pretty sure you cought wind of this, but you must have forgot. Let me give you a hint, everyone was walking around with a picture of him. All the hippies, all the scholars, everyone, even I was walking around with the picture on my clothing when I was a teenager. That guy is an icon. Probably on the same level of Ghandi. But of course you will never admit that.

That's him, listen to the guy. He was basically fed up with on Nation being a bully. Like one f kid walking around the schoolyard and taking every kids lunchbox until a few kids dropped dead because of starvation and he snapped.

His speach on imperialism:

Guevara was a sadistic murderous racist thug who by his own admission enjoyed personally carrying out executions. His racism toward black people was one thing he did indeed have in common with Gandhi though.

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/...or-marco-rubio

You, as you did before, are jumping the gun.
And this Rubio guy seems to be a idiot. Probably faar right.

Edit.
Yes, he is. I just looked him up. He is Cuban American, and yet he calls out jay z for visiting Cuba?? So he is not supposed to do that? He is a far right traitor to his country, a f lying hypocrate . Ask the people in Cuba what they think of him.

"Florida Senator Marco Rubio schooled rapper Jay-Z on several Sunday morning political shows this weekend. Rubio complained about Jay-Z and his wife Beyoncé Knowles’ recent trip to Cuba and also criticized the rapper for wearing Che Guevara t-shirts.

“I think Jay-Z needs to get informed,” Rubio said during an interview on ABC’s “This Week.” “One of his heroes is Che Guevara. Che Guevara was a racist. Che Guevara was a racist that wrote extensively about the superiority of white Europeans over people of African descent, so he should inform himself on the guy that he’s propping up.”

The self-identified conservative newspaper The Examiner points out there is truth to Rubio’s comments but “what Rubio failed to disclose, however, was that Guevara had written such when he was in his twenties. In his later years, Guevara openly confessed to being a changed person.” "

Yup, Rubio is a hated by his own people. A traitor. A f hypocrate. Far right and stuck in the 60s. The opposite of Che indeed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/us...roots.amp.html

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ut-superiorit/

@CV you probably have your info from Rubio, you need to fact check your posts. Here are the quotes that he calls racist. And your source is completely exaggerating, AND is a lying piece of ****. He really has to do things wrong to be hated by his own people. Btw there is nothing racist he wrote in his journal as a 20 something old. He fought fire with fire, how else you gonna win?
About Gandhi I'm not even replying it is so wrong.

Che Guevara

Che Guevara to United Nations 1964

Ah those crazy Communists and their endless bloodlust and penchant for mass murder.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/11/26/...ord-repression

https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=1535

https://historycollection.com/nobody...che-guevara/9/

Billy Bob I mean Mahatma Gandhi On South African black folk.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34265882


https://indianexpress.com/article/op...ndhi-are-good/

Ah well at least he was into peace n love, right?
Gandhi on how to deal with those dastardly British.


Interesting- and by that I mean extraordinarily creepy- way he tested his celibacy too...
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...st-naked-women

You can't piss on Che Guevara nor on Gandhi, no matter how hard you try.

The only way to stop a fire, is with fire. Ask a firefighter. They were the ones being messed with. Dont forget.

This is all bs, just as with the Rubio bullshit. Try harder digging up dirt on some of the most influential and greatest human beings, you will fail. Nobody is perfect. And you are probably the least perfect.

You were wrong about Che, Gandhi, Dr Grande, and Holtzclaw. Now will you please stop pissing on some of the best men we ever had? Thank you.

Btw. There is probably more dark skinned people in India than there is in Africa.

I'm simply quoting them and relaying facts. Cold hard facts beat warm and fuzzy narratives any old day of the week mate.

I never mentioned Rubico nor was anything I linked from him.
I'm not wrong on Guevara or Gandhi's less than savoury aspects as I've shown via their own quotes and I kinda doubt I'm wrong on Holtzclaw either and with all due respect, I don't think your argument for him being horribly railroaded due to BLM effectively holding the cops to ransom with threatened riots, was particularly compelling or believable or plausible. And that thread was closed anyway so I don't see the point in rehashing things regarding that imo justly convicted nonce, except to say you've 263 years to prove everyone wrong as that's how long he got sentenced to, and best of luck with that too.

Btw who do you mean by best man we ever had, Guevara or Gandhi? It's just that I kinda pissed on both is all so Im not sure which one you mean.


...Unless of course you meant Holtzclaw in which case I'd kinda trail off, while staring quizzically at you, really.

No, I'm not perfect. But I haven't executed or raped anyone or engaged in racism toward black people so, I think we kinda need a barometer or gauge on maybe levels of non perfection, like maybe smoking too much weed or cracking one out to porn being say a 1, while racism being say a 7 while mass executing people would have to be at least a 32 or something on a 32.5 scale.
Point being a sense of context is all, something that would make you say "Corpus isn't perfect by any means and can be a bit of a douche at the best of times but he's not quite as bad as Che Guevara or that Holtzclaw dude who abused his authority as a cop and raped a bunch of women".
I mean isn't that fair to say in fairness?

Well, it's one way. Not the only way

Mate, I apologize for offending you personally.
I should have been more open to critique.

I said best men and meant Guevara and Gandhi.
Didn't really appreciate you pissing on them. But figured out I can only learn if you bring something to the table and am open to learn new things.
However I am pretty sure, there is no true claim of Guevara being a racist. Other than that accusation from Rubio, which is complete bs imo , still. He only said this to look like a true republican imo. Thats why I said he is a traitor. Read my link 'politfacts'. And the irony of it is, imo is Rubio himself. I did a quick research on him to find that cubans are not really fond of him, they say he is the worst thing to Cuba. He is also against lgtb, against abortions and same sex marriage. All very republican, but he is regarded as a sell out for the youth. And he was the one that pulled out these exaexaggerations about Che. Im not saying Che was a saint. But he us regarded as on almost, at least as a hero around the world.

The dirt about Gandhi would be interesting, as the only critique I heard on him, was him being too peaceful. So India was allegedly messed with bc of his non war approach. But I am pretty sure if you really digged hard, you could find dirt on anyone.

Holtzclaw I wanna leave out here as it would be a derail.
So I put it only for you, in the spoiler. So you understand why I was upset with your judgement.

Yah lol I know. It's the good way to stop a bushfire. Probably the most effective way. My bad.

lol

Jaaahaaahahaa! Now I get it!

It's actually funny af!

I realise that calling someone marxist is the worst thing to be called in the U.S. and I almost forgot why that is. It's because the US and the sovjets had this decade long cold war. However I think lagtight, AND itshot btw are forgetting sometime very crucial. Marxism is actually a very noble concept So calling someone marxist is not as bad as you think. Especially when you look at it objectively. Anyways lagtight i didnt want a lash out at you. I jusf find it ridicoulus that you called Marxism what you did. I don't even want to repeat it.

And as you can see Cuba is a fine country where believe it or not the people are happy. Most of the time at least from what I know.

Oh I'm not offended, but I don't see Guevara in the same light you do, is all. With respect you've no justification for your advocacy for Holtzclaw as you haven't read the court sources and claimed they could be faked. And like I've said that thread was closed so I don't see the point in you bringing him up.

You're an apologist for Communism/mass murder who claims Soviet era gulags were better than US prisons. Nobody sane cares about your opinion.

Yeah nothing screams happy like a mass protest.

You are an apologist for mass murdering USA and UK regimes.

Talk about the Soviets all you want but you are blatantly wrong about the Cubans. They executed like 500 Batista thugs who had themselves tortured and killed thousands.

Open a history book.

ghandi used to sleep naked with prepubescent girls to "test his purity"

Sadly or ironically he is. That is exactly the ignorant and one sided narrative of the far right. That is to cover their ears and sing: "lalalalalalala!!
Leaving out cause and effect to spin a twisted narrative is a popular method of the far right.
The funny thing is everyone on this forum seemed to hop on the anti trump train. Not so much on that one. Reasoning? Not quite sure.

History 101 Cuba- Revolution from wiki

Note that none of the stuff CV mentioned is on there. I wonder why. If anything, it proves that he was not a racist, as he risked his life to fight in Congo for the African people and was ready to free the the whole African country. You definetly will find the same anti Che Guevara arguements on far right 4chans, where mass killers are made, though. Sorry CV, but that's just the truth, mate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara


"Following the Cuban Revolution, Guevara performed a number of key roles in the new government. These included reviewing the appeals and firing squads for those convicted as war criminals during the revolutionary tribunals,[10] instituting agrarian land reform as minister of industries, helping spearhead a successful nationwide literacy campaign, serving as both national bank president and instructional director for Cuba's armed forces, and traversing the globe as a diplomat on behalf of Cuban socialism. Such positions also allowed him to play a central role in training the militia forces who repelled the Bay of Pigs Invasion,[11] and bringing Soviet nuclear-armed ballistic missiles to Cuba, which preceded the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.[12] Additionally, Guevara was a prolific writer and diarist, composing a seminal guerrilla warfare manual, along with a best-selling memoir about his youthful continental motorcycle journey. His experiences and studying of Marxism–Leninism led him to posit that the Third World's underdevelopment and dependence was an intrinsic result of imperialism, neocolonialism, and monopoly capitalism, with the only remedy being proletarian internationalism and world revolution.[13][14] Guevara left Cuba in 1965 to foment continental revolutions across both Africa and South America,[15] first unsuccessfully in Congo-Kinshasa and later in Bolivia, where he was captured by CIA-assisted Bolivian forces and summarily executed.[16]"

Lol wtf?