Only A Green New Deal Can Douse the Fire of Eco-Fascism
Naomi Klein article that ties together so many recent themes it's scary. We've got ecofascism, mass-shootings, neoliberal economics, and pure bullshit all wrapped up into one narrarive. It's amazing.
Everyone has given me a hard time for pointing out that the media is pushing this ecofascism stuff hard because of how ridiculous it seems and because nobody has seen an ecofascist--but they were on 8chan. But how you know it's legit is that they were writing about it before Christchurch.
Klein also appeared on Democracy Now

Why would you say Tulsi? I get that some people have some reasons, but why would you call Tulsi a moderate?

https://www.tulsi2020.com/record

Cut the defense budget
End war on drugs
M4A
GND
End private prisons/cash bail
marriage equality/LGBTQ+ protected status
restore Glass-Steagall
universal background check and ban on assault weapons

She quit the DNC to support Bernie.

Pew has a poll out on trust in media

The partisan media trust gap doesn't fully explain how democrats can be smarter but republicans can understand more, but it helps.

I think you are giving Republicans way too much credit here. I don't think Republicans understand more. I think the media narrative generally confirms Democrat biases, and works against Republican biases, and this is largely where the disconnect is.

Also, FWIW I think there is virtually no correlation between intelligence and cognitive biases. Because these biases are ruled purely emotionally, and in humans intelligence/reason exerts very little control over emotionally based decisions (if any control at all). The most I would say is that more intelligent people can articulate better their rationalizations for their biases, but make no mistake what part of the brain is in control.

Not a comment on your larger point, but this is a mischaracterization of cognitive bias. What distinguishes a cognitive bias is that it is an error based on a characteristic flaw in our reasoning. The basic idea is that we typically make initial judgements by using heuristics, and our usage of imperfect heuristics can lead to systematic flaws of reasoning. For instance, there are well-known cognitive biases that result from the somewhat poor heuristics most people use for reasoning under uncertainty. This isn't because people's emotions are interfering with their ability to reason, but rather because the way most people reason about uncertainty on an intuitive level is inaccurate.

Why White-supremacists are hooked on living green
New Ecofascism article out last week from The New Republic that mirrors the Naomi Klein "only a GND can save us".
[Note: nothing I quote or put in bold means I agree with it]

There's no way you can read all these mass killers and think that environmentalism is central to their beliefs. It's pretty obvious when their environmentalism only comes to the fore when it comes to the dirty brown people coming into contact with the pure and good white people in the true and good White Country. Otherwise they don't give a sh*t. I think 'enviromental fascism' could actually be a thing,, but for all these guys it's like the debate tactic where you try and swarm your opponent with a ton of good things that come out of your proposal, in this case, getting rid of brown people. We've already seen this with 'getting rid of illegals will bring down rent' in San Francisco. Turns out getting rid of brown people is good for the environment too! What other good incidental things could happen if we got rid of brown people? Less litter! (yes that's been said). Etc. The key point is they want to get rid of brown people, the rest is window dressing.

To change topics a little, whatever you think of what Amber Guyger should have been charged with, or how long she should have been jailed; it was very interesting how the media tried so hard to use this issue to make it about race and to fuel racial tension, and I feel it just wasn't successful.

Despite the NYT and CNN and others doing their usual race baiting thing, it seems that the public at large just didn't take the bait and it didn't make the national zeitgeist like these things have in the past. I genuinely wonder if this is signifying a shift that the populace at large is pushing back against the MSM tactics of race baiting. Maybe not, but it will be interesting thing to monitor moving forward.

This is where only occasionally watching Univision shows its advantages because I know nothing about this story.
This is where she thought she was going to her own apartment and she went to his instead and she shot him? I'll defer to Slighted for the first time ever on this one.

Seems like an excessive leap to take based on a 10 year murder rap. Pretty sure that is a fairly normal sentence. I don't think there is as much outrage because there is actual justice being dealt instead of lies and a coverup resulting in a slap on the wrist.

I wasn't referring to exactly the sentence. I meant the entire trial and lead up. Seems the media really tried its usual shtick to generate racial animosity and it never really got going. Hopefully this is a good sign for the country moving forward that we are (maybe) not as easily manipulated by the media towards destructive behavior.

Possibly the same thing with the whole 1619 project. The NYT wants us to hate each other based on skin color so bad they concocted this whole nonsense. But it doesn't really seem like anyone is taking the bait. Maybe we really are tired of all the race baiting and finally moving on. Although that may be regional bias. Maybe it is a bigger deal in the parts of the country.

Do you have any examples of this?

Replying here because it's so far from climate change
But as far as trauma for the masses goes, they have and did. But now instead of being traumatized I just get angry but the anger still comes from the trauma.

I think your "lumps of meat" comment sort of gets at it actually. Because I've (tried to) argue against materialism in this forum although I've gotten no takers. But suffice it to say I do not believe that humans reduce to lumps of meat and part of the "war on ourselves" has the effect of telling us that we are the problem-- that humans are a plague and should be reduced or even eliminated. That rhetoric is out there and it's practically by definition dehumanizing. It's an attack on psyches. The motivation even there can still be to institute the neoliberal control but having people feel powerless and weak and like they are the problem serves the ruling class in all aspects.

Something about this whole situation seems weird based on her persona and looks.

Do you think Amber actually shot anyone and is going to jail or was this played out for a bigger purpose?

When you ask me good questions it's fine. Don't ask me stupid ones please. I said I don't know anything about this story. Was Michael Baden involved? If not then I don't care.

Joshua Brown, key witness in Amber Guyger murder trial and neighbor of Botham Jean, shot to death in Dallas
Well ok.

Post I made in POG since I'm paying more attention to this. They arrested two of three suspects in Joshua Brown's alleged murder but some people aren't buying it. I'm still an Amber Guyger agnostic.

The media had another fantastic week

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...btq-town-hall/

Such a weird thing. That's not "the media"

Cross post from pog: I also owe Formula72 an apology here.



So in my research on this Amber Guyger/Joshua Brown/ stuff I've come across articles from a publication I've never heard of, NewsOne. Here is one of them. Dallas Media tries to twist Joshua Brown's Criminal Record in Death . Or this one Petition Demands FBI take over in Joshua Brown's Murder Case . And they are supportive of the idea that there is some foul play regarding the DPD.
And on twitter I see that Joshua Brown's lawyer (also Botham Jean's family's lawyer) Lee Merit is associated with with NewsOne.

So who owns NewsOne ? They are owned by AirWaves Media which is:
It's all interesting. But this tweet I also wanted to talk about from the lawyer Lee Merit:

Because they are saying he pushed the "shot in the mouth" line. And this tweet doesn't make much sense. Did the cops shoot him, was he murdered by his (non cop) enemies, or was it random drug deal turned homicide? We can't really tell what he is alleging other than that the city of Dallas is somewhat responsible. Again, all "interesting" and certainly nothing will prove anything to anybody but the the involvement of race-baity Pakistani media wasn't expected here.

Another xpost:

this article is the one that really lays out the craziness of the official story
Remember that he was said to be in critical condition after being shot in the chest.
They were driving to Dallas to rob Brown but a Louisiana sherrif was tipped off about it before it happened

Remember he's in critical condition still at hospital telling the cops everything.

So the whole story comes from Jacquerious in critical condition. When he was dropped off after being shot in the chest, they let the guy who dropped him go on the word that "Demon Martin" did the shooting. And cops got a tip they were coming to Dallas to rob someone.
LOL. It's possible they never cared to make this stuff seem realistic but they've really stopped caring now.

I'll throw you a bone because I'm a little suspicious and pissed about this. I have no doubt at all that this story is accurate, but I'm not sure that they just put it together today. The story is about bombing that happened May 5th and 6th and it's not even clear what year. The UN opened an investigation on the first of August of this year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/w...hospitals.html

Luckbox is not a conservative, you guys.

No comment on any of the Dallas scheninigans?