No, it's not like telling people that.


According to one of the CRT charts posted earlier, capitalism is EVIL. And yet some of these CRT-teachers are making nice money telling young people that capitalism is EVIL.

By the way, I want teachers to make a lot of money. Unless they're teaching drivel, like some CRT teachers are teaching.

Yes.

I certainly don't approve of everything he did and the way he sometimes did it, as some of his accusations against certain people being Communists were false.

Overall, I believe he did a great service for our country in exposing Communist influence and even infiltration in our government.

Do you think that you are accurately rendering Itshot's views with the bolded statements above? Because, if you do you aren't even trying to pay attention.

Where do you think they got these truisms (theories) about math from? I gave you a hint.


What epistemology do you think they're going to base this on?


In case you can't figure it out, they are using math to propagate critical praxis. CRT propaganda is going to be a central component of math class.

Marxism is a manifestation of Satanism, in my opinion.

I thought this was appropriate considering the reference to boomers earlier:

You are truly a lost person if you believe that Joe McCarthy was a credit to the United States. Are you also going to defend Roy Cohn?

McCarthy was an extremist, an example of the reactionary right to communistic ideas. McCarthyism would have been neutered if the left had simply disavowed communism.

No I'm not.

The only thing that I know about Cohn is that he was a McCarthy-apologist. I've seen I think two interviews of him from the 1970's on Youtube.

Did you guys ever figure out what crt is? I still don’t get it.

Based on what I know so far, this seems accurate to me. I admit I might be ignorant on the topic. I have read about 30 pages of Ibram Kendis book, stamped and am enjoying it so far, but I’m not sure what it has to do with critical race theory yet. And it seems like a lot of intellectual work for one framework on how to discuss these issues. I have also read almost nothing about critical theory.

If that's all you know about Roy Cohn, then you can't possibly know enough about McCarthy to have an informed opinion.

So we just need to ride it out for 3-4 more decades till all the boom booms die off? lol What about all the younger people that they've taught? It's not like the boomers invented racism--they were taught as well. I agree tons of younger people are way ahead--but what if everyone doesn't want to let things linger for decades more?

as usual, the people the right wing is criticizing would be a lot cooler themselves if the criticisms were true. it would be ****ing amazing if our school systems were actually teaching the youths to be marxists.

and ofc liberalism and capitalism is oppressive and racist. like, look at the world. its pretty obv.

haha nice post. this is some serious ownage. doubt they respond.

I was gonna say all U.S. Citizens for the last 60 years. But then I remembered that Christians can't put up Nativity scenes for Xmas and that anyone promoting conservative views as a teacher loses their job. So I guess you have a point.

I'm genuinely trying to understand why anyone would care if an idea takes its roots in Marxist thought.

The answer appears to be a rant about these undercover Marxists will lead to the end of free speech, property rights, and then bring the rise of fascism.

That sounds very bad. I'm just wondering if Marxist thought has also corrupted any art movements and whether we could get an approved list so we don't fall victim to it.

There's some highly political punk and rap music, and Billy Bragg definitely has to go, any other ideas?

Here is an excerpt from a biography of McCarthy, Joseph McCarthy: Reexaminating the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator by Arthur Herman, 1999


Today we know better. Archival materials from the former Soviet Union have revealed that Stalin's intentions were aggressively malign and expansionist, just as America's coldest cold warriors had believed. We now know that Mao Tse-tung was not a progressive nationalist forced into the Soviet camp by American hostility and incomprehension, as revisionist scholars in the seventies like to pretend, but was a brutal and dedicated Communist who enthusiastically embraced Stalin from the beginning. Historians J. E. Haynes, Harvey Klehr, Ronald Radosh, Allan Weinstein, and Alexander Vassiliev have used new declassified American materials as well as Soviet sources to lay to rest any doubts about the Soviet Union's espionage activities, as well as the Communist Party's active support of it.

The declassified Venona decrypts have revealed to the public the full extent and depth of Soviet spying in America and proved that fears of Russian espionage networks at work in the highest reaches of the government were not fantasy but sober fact. Meanwhile, independent sources from iron curtain Hungary have confirmed Alger Hiss's role as a Soviet spy, just as Russian sources (including his former KGB case officer) have finally definitively established that Julius Rosenberg was a central figure in the Soviet spy network (although the importance of the material he provided on the atomic bomb, and the degree of his wife Ethel's involvement, is still under debate). Even the truth about Owen Lattimore, the most famous of McCarthy's "victims," has finally come out, thanks to a former Chinese espionage agent's memoirs and declassified FBI files, which go a long way to vindicate McCarthy's original charges. In retrospect, the cause McCarthy made his own — anticommunism — has proved to be more valid and durable than the basic assumptions of his anti-anti-Communist critics.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nyti...-mccarthy.html

You don't seem to want to answer the question, and pivoted to a different criticism(s). I'll just assume you're full of s***.


It's odd when someone thinks Delgado, or the other founders of critical race theory are undercover Marxist, or that the founders of BLM are undercover Marxist.

Well, putting aside the fact that these CRT-teachers aren't likely trying to tear Capitalism down (that's just the red hearing you're using to dodge their points), I'm still pretty sure that Marxist societies used a wages for labor model.

Getting a paycheck isn't something that was invented during The Industrial Revolution.

One of the most peculiar twist of the current left is their full on embracing and defending of ideological dogma that openingly advocates and praises the virtues of racial discrimination. Their ideological devotion to "equity" knows no bounds. Critical Theory corrupts everything.

So then why are you doing your Chicken Little dance and telling us if we don't stamp out CT and anything remotely coming from it the Capitalist sky will fall ?

Also, please address the evils of Capitalism and Imperialism.

Also, you're still not scaring anyone by saying Marxism = Evil.

You need to make the case at some point, why/how/is the potential harm caused by the Marxist roots of CRT is greater than the actual harm caused by the systemic racism it's trying to address.

That's pretty much where we're at now. You keep repeating your talking points, mostly spoken by others. But this thread is going nowhere unless you present some sort of thesis at some point. Now would be a good time imo.


In before locked the sequel.

There wasn't a question in that post.

I'm just wondering now that we've established that the Marxists have surreptitiously corrupted the education system if we need to look elsewhere.

Billy Bragg is definitely music that takes its roots in Marxist thought so I'm thinking it should be taken off the approved art list. Same for Orwell. No way our kids should be reading his Marxist diatribes.

(breaking character for a sec, hopefully you're starting to realise this is the same criticism I've been making all along about that cultural somethingism...)

There is likely some truth to that.

It's kind of ironic because an actual Marxist would focus on class (MLK did that and ended up dead for his trouble). It seems that the real racist values may be the Western Liberal ones you seem so afraid of losing.

I just need to demonstrate why CRT is bad. The first, and most effective reason is that it's illiberal, and stuff like racial discrimination is bad. Changing the entire education system based on conjecture, or "theory", with no basis in rationality, is dumb.

As long as you guys simply mischaracterize all my posts to oversimplified caricatures "Marxism is evil", without actually contending with why I say it's evil, its going to be your problem.

I pointed out philosophical and practical criticism of critical theory. None of you contend with it, and instead revert to the inaccurate grift you've heard on cable news.