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The liberal media and the police Killing of Sonya Massey The liberal media and the police Killing of Sonya Massey

07-27-2024 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
I admittedly didn't spend a lot of time on this, but I didn't see any intent to throw boiling water. Even if there was that doesn't justify shooting.
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This. These guys make good money and retire at 50 with a HS education cuz they are expected to navigate difficult situations.

All kinds of people are in these situations, like teachers, postal workers, Uber drivers, clerks at stores...

Only cops wet their pants and start spraying bullets every time they think k there is a 1% chance they might possibly be in danger.

When I was a sub I had a pretty big kid who, in that neighborhood could easily have a weapon, get in my face repeatedly shove me while screaming he was going to kill me.

I wasn't even allowed to touch him. I'd probably have been fired if I just grabbed his wrists and restrained him.

Luckily I was a part time substitute teacher with one week of training, so I could handle it, unlike a cop.

As I am not a pants wetting coward, it was NBD. Not my favorite day on the job, but I got through it and didn't lay a finger on the kid.

Tons of people deal with such things every single day. Only when it's cops do two armed men vs 1 woman with a pot of water fear for their lives so badly that they just start killing people.
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07-27-2024 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
She could have had a gun in the oven mitts.
She's been taking tips from my man Bruce.

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07-27-2024 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
When I was a sub
Tell us more...
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07-27-2024 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Tell us more...
That was my night job.
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07-27-2024 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
If someone was coming at me with some boiling water I'd try to shoot them in the leg
I think I would just run away, but who knows.

I tend to avoid physical confrontations at all cost, even when I am fairly confident I would win; but I also recognize my ego is not linked to my perceived physical prowess or "bravery" in such situations, nor would I be shamed or suffer loss of status by anyone whose opinion I care about for running away. But I also accept that for people wired differently or in a different social milieu running away would not be considered a viable option.

Last edited by Dunyain; 07-27-2024 at 07:53 PM.
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07-27-2024 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
This. These guys make good money and retire at 50 with a HS education cuz they are expected to navigate difficult situations.

All kinds of people are in these situations, like teachers, postal workers, Uber drivers, clerks at stores...

Only cops wet their pants and start spraying bullets every time they think k there is a 1% chance they might possibly be in danger.

When I was a sub I had a pretty big kid who, in that neighborhood could easily have a weapon, get in my face repeatedly shove me while screaming he was going to kill me.

I wasn't even allowed to touch him. I'd probably have been fired if I just grabbed his wrists and restrained him.

Luckily I was a part time substitute teacher with one week of training, so I could handle it, unlike a cop.

As I am not a pants wetting coward, it was NBD. Not my favorite day on the job, but I got through it and didn't lay a finger on the kid.

Tons of people deal with such things every single day. Only when it's cops do two armed men vs 1 woman with a pot of water fear for their lives so badly that they just start killing people.
You realize there are tons of videos on social media of substitute teachers, and even regular teachers, assaulting students who antagonize them. You reducing it to substitute teachers generally being able to navigate difficult situations, but police not being able to, isn't supported by reality; and just reflects your own prejudices.
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07-27-2024 , 07:55 PM
How many substitute teachers have killed their students?
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07-27-2024 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
You realize there are tons of videos on social media of substitute teachers, and even regular teachers, assaulting students who antagonize them. You reducing it to substitute teachers generally being able to navigate difficult situations, but police not being able to, isn't supported by reality; and just reflects your own prejudices.
That's normal human behavior. It would be understandable if the cops shoved her or something. Maybe ethical or not.

How many times has a teacher killed a student over some percieved chance of a threat?

Lots of postmen shooting people's dogs? Lots of 7/11 clerks shooting people for reaching for their wallets?

Let alone 2 male teachers killing a female student because they "feared for their lives" or, in this case, feared a boo boo.

He'll, if YOU had a gun and you thought maybe someone might throw hot water at you, and they might or might not hit you and it might or might not be hot enough to do real damage, and you could just distance yourself from them.... Would you shoot them in the head?

If so, you are an enormous coward.

How many times do you think British or German cops kill people in situations like this?
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07-27-2024 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Given Crossnerds clear biases the fact that you are comfortable with her clearly biased explanation again suggests your own biases are playing a role. I am pretty confident if the officer was a black female and the civilian was a white male and everything else went exactly the same, both you guys would have wildly different interpretations of what happened.
My sweet summer child, if you do not believe my explanation for that phrase and the context in which I repeatedly heard it uttered, Google is available to you!
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07-27-2024 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
My sweet summer child, if you do not believe my explanation for that phrase and the context in which I repeatedly heard it uttered, Google is available to you!
you basically said rebuke = let's agree to disagree. that is 100% wrong. just an FYI.
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07-27-2024 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
scroll back a few seconds brother. shes sitting on the couch and the officer instructs her to go and turn off the boiling water.
Pay attention, man.

Obviously, she knew they would do that and it was all a part of her masterful plan to be shot by the police for holding a pot of hot water.
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07-27-2024 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
you basically said rebuke = let's agree to disagree. that is 100% wrong. just an FYI.
I said that the phrase “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus” typically is used when the person saying it disagrees with or dislikes something that someone else said or did.

There is also occasionally some implication that the thing that was said or done or the person who said or did it that is now being rebuked was not Christian, or in extreme cases, demonic.

Again, it implies no aggression. It’s an utterance of protection if anything, and it is very common in black and religious communities. It’s a quote from the Bible.
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07-27-2024 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2

How many times do you think British or German cops kill people in situations like this?
The US has environmental conditions not present in those other countries (proliferation of guns, mental illness epidemic, wealth disparity, generally more individualistic and criminal culture) that makes this comparison apples to oranges.

If German or British cops were transported to the US and vice versa, I expect the environment would take over, and outcomes would be similar.
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07-27-2024 , 08:37 PM
I would probably let someone throw ice water on me without shooting them
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07-27-2024 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
"Waving", Kel. You know, the thing you do with your hands.
This just has to be intentional.
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07-27-2024 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
This just has to be intentional.
I've noticed that Kel is not, how do I put this, one for retaining new information. In days gone by I think we used to call that "in one ear and out of the other".
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07-27-2024 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I said that the phrase “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus” typically is used when the person saying it disagrees with or dislikes something that someone else said or did.

There is also occasionally some implication that the thing that was said or done or the person who said or did it that is now being rebuked was not Christian, or in extreme cases, demonic.

Again, it implies no aggression. It’s an utterance of protection if anything, and it is very common in black and religious communities. It’s a quote from the Bible.
A rebuke is a strong, sharp, stinging disagreement. It is not a "disagree or dislike." Come on.
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07-27-2024 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
A rebuke is a strong, sharp, stinging disagreement. It is not a "disagree or dislike." Come on.
I am telling you how the phrase is commonly used. The “rebuke” is theoretically to the demon inside the person who made them do or say something disagreeable. It’s not meant to be literal..

Again, there are cultures within the United States who use this phrase commonly and casually. It’s not a threat.

I can’t tell you how many times I saw kids rebuked “in the name of Jesus” growing up and it just meant basically “you’re wrong for that.”

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07-27-2024 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
A rebuke is a strong, sharp, stinging disagreement. It is not a "disagree or dislike." Come on.
Do you know what a quotation or an idiom is? She literally just told you it's a quote from the Bible, which itself is full of idiocyms.
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07-27-2024 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I am telling you how the phrase is commonly used. The “rebuke” is theoretically to the demon inside the person who made them do or say something disagreeable. It’s not meant to be literal..

Again, there are cultures within the United States who use this phrase commonly and casually. It’s not a threat.

I can’t tell you how many times I saw kids rebuked “in the name of Jesus” growing up and it just meant basically “you’re wrong for that.”
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
She said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”. I spent part of my childhood in the South and heard this phrase frequently, especially from the religious black community. It literally just means I don’t like/agree with what you just said or did.
You can see where my confusion comes from. It's not meant to be literal but it literally just means.....
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07-27-2024 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I am telling you how the phrase is commonly used. The “rebuke” is theoretically to the demon inside the person who made them do or say something disagreeable. It’s not meant to be literal..

Again, there are cultures within the United States who use this phrase commonly and casually. It’s not a threat.

I can’t tell you how many times I saw kids rebuked “in the name of Jesus” growing up and it just meant basically “you’re wrong for that.”
Yeah, some of the more Charismatic Church preachers say it all the time. I've never heard it used s a threat. Surprised any American is not familiar with the expression.

Last edited by ecriture d'adulte; 07-27-2024 at 09:09 PM.
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07-27-2024 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
You can see where my confusion comes from. It's not meant to be literal but it literally just means.....
I think in the latter post Crossnerd used "literally" to mean "figuratively", like 99.99% of the population do. While I'll admit to being one of those who finds this usage irksome, I think it's pretty clear what she meant.
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07-27-2024 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I think in the latter post Crossnerd used "literally" to mean "figuratively", like 99.99% of the population do. While I'll admit to being one of those who finds this usage irksome, I think it's pretty clear what she meant.
I did, I should have reread it

Good lookin’ out, D2
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07-27-2024 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I think in the latter post Crossnerd used "literally" to mean "figuratively", like 99.99% of the population do. While I'll admit to being one of those who finds this usage irksome, I think it's pretty clear what she meant.
I don't think Crossnerd is a dummy and I'm sure she knows the usage of literal. I'm just saying her definition of rebuke if a little off.

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07-27-2024 , 09:10 PM
If you replay the clip and replace the phrase “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus” with “You’re wrong for that”, then you will essentially have the context of what was meant by it and how ridiculous his reaction was.
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