No. I dont know why you repeat this nonsense

apart from it being silly nonsense, the audience here has been almost fanatically anti-PC on both sides. Ironic huh!

Agree almost entirely.

But would add, if you listen when Joe talks about his beliefs and what he would vote for, his views are generally most much closer to Bernie's brand of socialism than most main stream democrats.

I would argue he falls far more in line with the Progressives than they typical corporate Dem type and he certainly is no where near the GOP on those social issues.

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Yes i think they left The Hill as they saw a much bigger 'Right' audience they were not able to go after. The Hill allowed some but I see them doing much more now. But I also see the Hill has replaced them with a couple new hosts they do allow to go more right, one gal who tends to go full derpy right. I think they did that to try and keep these two from stealing their audience.

Sounds a bit redogatory but this is largely what you want in a chat show host.

Absolutely. This is where some on the left seem to go horribly wrong. Encourage as many progressives, liberals, lefties and experts on fox/etc as possible. And preferably attract the audience to better news channels.

Sam Harris has a good ep of his Making Sense podcast about Rogan and the use of certain words like the n-word in general

I think you mis read my point there and its not nonsense.

If you are on Sesame Street than saying the NWord for pollical correctness is appropriate and ok.

If you are on a less PC platform or in a scholarly debate about the use the language, not being PC and just using the word is fine and appropriate.

that is what I meant by 'if you feel you have to be PC'. I was not referring to you or any individual.


So again, if a scholarly debate was engage about the use of language today and the word n*gger, was the focus, I would not expect everyone to keep saying 'Nword but what i mean is the actual word and not the PC version' each and every time instead of just saying the word.

Ok. i did misunderstand. sorry.

I still disagree. The reason for being PC does not depend on the platform although the pressure to be PC may depend on the platform. It's analogous to pressure to take vaccines - the pressure to comply is different to the reason for doing it.

Legend David Goggins has the best take on Joe Rogan yet.



I don't think Joe has any political affiliation, he often shares the views of the guest for conversation sake because he's very good at what he does. He's certainly out spoken about things on the left and right and it often upsets the zealots on both sides.

I don't understand the hate currently directed his way about COVID/vaccines. The number of people that would take or not take a vaccine based solely on JRE podcast is so small who cares. His COVID treatment was done with a Dr and it worked for him so who cares?

Anyway it's painfully obvious this is a coordinated attack toward him because he is crushing the mainstream media and often gives voices to people other wise banned or shunned from the mainstream.

This presupposes that Bernie Sanders is the left wing equivalent of Jordan Peterson or Alex Jones. He isn’t. If you give a platform to a Holocaust denialist, you can’t cancel that out by booking Doris Kearns Goodwin. If you’re transfixed by Holocaust you’re sympathizing with antisemetic views full stop.

Totally disagree then.

If two extremely well known liberal people are on a podcast taking about the evolution of language and the topic are slang words, and they 'the word ni**er' is a slang word derived from the word negro which means....', I would never call that use wrong and instead say to be PC they should have said "the word Nword, but not this more PC version, we mean the real word, is a derivative of the word negro...', is not necessary.

to hear Jim Acosta keep repeating over and over 'another time Joe Rogan used the Nword, but not this pc version, he said the actual word' is just an exercise in ridiculousness imo.

Again

Jim Acosts - We are reporting that Person 1 just used the Nword derisively to slight person, but he did not actually say 'Nword' and he instead used the real non PC word...

Reporter 2 - We are reporting that Person 1 just used the word ni**er derisively to slight person


if you need the latter changed and think it is just wrong to say, then I do think that is likely due to PC culture drilling it into you that there is no instance it can be used properly which ties into the Carlin routine.

I would then ask do you think it is fine for dictionaries to spell it out and if so why? Why should they not write as 'the Nword, but not this pc version, we mean the real word'? how is avoiding offending the eyes of the reader?

Ive been watching a bit more of The Hill again . I remember them ( breaking Points) saying when they were on Joe Rogan that The Hill was excellent with them no restrictions
As well YouTube been suggesting the PBD podcast and lots of Knees over Toes Guys stuff

Going to disagree with you that it would be considered correct by anyone as part of a Sesame Street skit.

Congrats on recognizing they are not the same human being, even if they have not been in the same room at the same time. The other example was to demonstrate that for entertainment purposes these hosts will make the extra effort to bring on entertaining guests, and it is hardly a secret in that world who is good and who are duds in that situation. Trump was always a great guest on any show he appeared on, as is Bernie. Ted Cruz - not so much, so even if he is a huge Rogan fan - odds are he will never be on the show.

Guess you missed the posts by Lozen where he said he believed Rogan had no idea he even had a target market, and he just picked guests he wanted to have a chat with as the only guide. Also, that full throttled Bernie Bro (good to see one back for entertainment purposes as most had breakdowns and poofed from here years ago) seemed to not fully get that a good part (likely the main part) of Rogan's routine is bringing on guests that will essentially make for good radio. He is not going to bring on someone who will be a boring guest, even if it is someone he might want to have a conversation with on a specific topic.

All the best.

that tweet is 100% correct.

As I have been stating, Joe has been at this now almost 20 years.

20 years of some of the longest rambling conversations in long form history. Probably top percent of content for all his world views out there for all to see.


So why now? Why now is something he said 18 years ago so important and so very wrong to Trolly and others of the virtue signaling left?

the answer is if you go one foot step off of what the virtuous left decide is a required position then they will hunt through your history to try and label you with the worst thing they can. And there does not have to be honesty to the labeling as they are happy to crop content to fight whatever narrative they want.

This 'see Joe used the Nword X times in those years' without context is try and bury him under the weight of accusations no matter how specious (can anyone say the Nword X times and not be racist....common???) because for 20 years of content he has had so few slip up or exposures and apologized and explained himself when he did.

It is everything we should all hate about the virtue signaling left and try to actual cancel as it is so very toxic. To strip everything of context and just position it as 'must be racist since it was said' and then to use that 'now proof' to then substantiate your other proof of his wrong doing is terrible.

Joking or confused?

I am saying if Sesame was doing a segment on racism and they said something like 'we never use the NWord' which is them using the PC version, that would be ok.

Whereas I am saying on, for educational podcast discussing historical use of language they would not need to use the politically correct word and could just say the word where appropriate.

Well, he recently called attention to himself by putting out anti-vaxx idiocy, so people are examining his long and storied history of being a moron and saying stupid things.

Is he anti-vaxx? I've been listening to JRE podcasts for a long time, not religiously or anything but when I have time or a guest interests me. I don't recall him ever being anti-vaxx. He's always been a bit of a Libertarian and on the side of natural medicines and what not, but I don't think he's ever been a hardcore "anti-vaxxer"?

That does actually bring up an interesting question of whether Rogan is considered anti-vaxx by loud and proud anti-vaxx derps. Guess it is all relative.

You do post a lot, and many times in a rush, so you may find you are not always as clear as you believe. The way you wrote it suggested the actual word was being said on Sesame Street in some kind of educational manner, perhaps with Cookie Monster (well, that would make news...) and you referred to it as the "Nword" to avoid saying the actual word here.

I kind of see what you are trying to do with your Nazi/Progressive group thingy, but I think that is stretching what you want to be your point. Just keep it smaller and local and say that you and Shifty are in lockstep with each other on this topic as the example.

Joe Rogan is a Rorschach blot.

LOL

Luv me some Jimmy Dore. I mean, to be fair, he went too far when he attributed motives to Neil Young but other than that it wasn't a bad critique.

Also, Crosby talking about someone being selfish is worth the price of admission.

You guys are on a roll today.

Poor dumb Joe Rogan. Just can't navigate the labor market and make a living like the smart people can.

It's threads like this that remind me why Trump is drawing live.

Why are you so butthurt over this?

Peterson, Rogan, Musk, all you're missing is Charles Ponzi and you're set

What do any of those 3 have in common with Charles Ponzi?

It's odd how we've instantly gone from "Rogan gave a platform to people sharing bad Covid information" (or shared bad Covid info himself), to "Rogan is a racist POS".

The two have nothing to do with each other really, but it shows how much the far left wants everyone to hate anyone they disagree with.

FWIW I've only listened to a few Rogan podcasts but he never struck me as a racist person in the slightest, and people who know him well say he's the furthest thing from being a racist. The pearl clutching over someone speaking the n-word out loud, regardless of context, is really juvenile. It's also obviously disingenuous. Fake outrage as payback for daring to promote horse dewormer or whatever.