Is this what you expect us to believe is going on? Noted language historian Joe Rogan was just having a scholarly talk about racial language?

and for most of us who are not that extreme.

I'm a supporter of hate speech laws and PC etc but turning into a war is what the right wing wants. No big polices and no change means they win.

Disagree. I mean I agree in principle if we limit it to the very real marxist types, but most on the far left are wannabe warriors. They are not informed on the issues and think that being a online warrior is there way to establish themselves as a credible far lefty. That is why they virtue signal and there is such a feeding frenzy to attack people who make mistakes like Matt Damon or Sarah Silverman or any non celebrity who makes any perceived mistake. It is there way of trying o demonstrate to the mob, how much better than those other people (and thus farther left) that they are.

It is the biggest challenge in the far left IMO as it is stealing the discussion from the actual real left.

That wasn't my point. My point is that adding "the actual nword, not the politically correct version I just used" is superflous.

Again:

"He said the nword" = he said "n***er"
"He said 'nword'" = he said "nword".

For those of you who listen to Joe Rogan, why do you do it? Is it because you find him entertaining? Provocative? Educational? All of the above?

Let me get this straight, you consider my post that calls you out for childishly name calling others with differing opinions to you as a personal attack? Derp until your hearts content my friend with peace of mind that nobody is obsessed with you.

When you stop acting as if it is an absolute where you can crop just the word as the indictment and proof or racism, I will stop using examples on the other extreme that show you to be silly and wrong. Clearly you believe the word can be used properly which means then context does matter.

That you might want to then argue Rogan's context was wrong means the burden is then on you to actually demonstrate that and not just state it as if true.

As far as censorship goes, I mean, I guess I can sort of get behind censoring racial slurs, but I'm against censorship in general and it seems like a bit of a slippery slope. I thought the movement to censor "the c-word" on UP was pretty moronic, for example. If we censored words purely for being offensive, we wouldn't be able to swear at all. That's kind of the point of having swear words in the first place, they are supposed to be taboo.

It's exactly the same in print so it's not a fair statement of my views. You can read Stewert Lee (I have) and it doens't chnage anything

Sure in adaptations or a different word or sentiment altogether. That is unless it's a necessary usage. Historical stuff - probably not but maybe if it's casual enough.

Again I see no difference between auditory or wriitten.

For the majority of his audience it is because they share his racist views and they like that he validates these beliefs by normalizing the use of racial slurs.

For the rest it is like "oh cool, he got Kanye West/ Snoop Dogg/ Bernie Sanders" on his show.

I think people are missing the point somewhat when discussing acceptable use of the n-word. The point is not to try and get Joe Rogan to stop saying that word, or to get anyone to stop saying it for that matter. The point is to paint Joe Rogan as a racist, because he dared to have some non-mainstream doctors on his show. No one cared about his use of the n-word until he started spreading "dangerous misinformation" about Covid (as if without Joe Rogan's all-powerful podcast all the derps would be masked up and triple vaxxed).

I mean come on we had Kamala on national TV saying she wouldn't take the vaccine if it got approved before the election because she didn't trust Trump. A complete lack of awareness of how the clinical trial/drug approval process works. Far more dangerous misinformation in terms of undermining confidence in vaccines than anything Joe Rogan said. Not a peep from anyone about it.

I still don't follow and that is probably my fault.

Jim Acosta on CNN reported :

- Joe rogan said "the Nword" over 30 times in his podcast.


I am reporting now that

- in reporting on joe rogan, Jim acosta said "the Nword", 8 times.


are you saying it is not necessary to ever distinguish, as is almost always done and as Jim Acosta kept repeating in his program that Joe was actually saying the real word and not the abbreviated one to avoid confusion? And if why do you think almost all news casts do so when they want you to know that while they are censoring themselves the other person they are quoting did not.

That was a classic problem of divided by a common language

Reninded me of the womens march against trump (men were welcome). There was a long congar line of young women going through the march chanting 'trump is a c***' Made me smile on readin that discussion to think what the usa unstuckied would have made of it.

I am saying that the bolded is wrong. It should read:

in reporting on joe rogan, Jim acosta said "nword", 8 times

No "the".

To be honest the popularity of his show mystifies me. I don't want to listen to anyone sitting around BSing for 3 hours at a time. It's crazy. Do people actually listen from beginning to end?

No, I said you tried to do a personal attack, but it was not particularly interesting, nor creative. I see you are trying a weaker version of the bait and switch routine Cuepee did earlier, so seems you are a newbie in all these things. We have never interacted directly except when you rush in to call me a bizarre middle aged bloke, which is, as I said, a pretty weak personal attack, so it typically gets a low effort reply by me for fun. A good chunk of your posts in this thread are about me, so seems that is the path you will continue - hopefully you will be more entertaining as you go!

Best way to show that is stop posting about me. Just saying. Your choice in the end.

All the best.

I don't know. I just looked up a video where he was interviewing some guy who claimed to be an Atlantis researcher. I only listened for a few minutes. I expected it to be entertaining in an Ancient Aliens sort of way. But it was quite boring.

Because most people are **** at grammar (both presenters and viewers).

Pretty much the same reason that undereducated people punctuate every other sentence with "you know what I mean?" or "innit?". Most people can't communicate effectively using the gift of language. One needs only skim these forums for myriad examples of this phenomenon.
Chez' body of work alone is enough to demonstrate this point a hundred times over.

I was in to MMA from its earliest broadcasts. I think UFC 3 was the first event I saw. Rogan's podcast was one of the main places you could here discussions on MMA.

I have always found his style of discussion and variety of guests that you typically would hear no where else interesting.

He is generally an apolitical left leaning hippie type who questions anything he hears from main stream sources which I think it is always important to do.

Most of his guests might be labelled more fringe but not generally extremists or CT types. Although I think more lately have been tipping into the latter as the money to be more extreme has spiked.

For example he might have on someone who was way more pro "Food as Medicine' than a typical Medical Doctor or someone who believed in Meditation as a cure to many mental challenges over Dr proscribed pharmaceuticals.

I am generally sympathetic to those views even if I do not go anywhere near out on the limb they do, especially since we all know now that more and more mainstream critique and science is being silenced and as such getting any skeptic voice is very difficult.


I also believe skeptics are a very necessary part of science and have said since the earliest Global Warming debates, that I think the sad fall out of the politicization of that issue is that skepticism in science will be treated as a blanket wrong, as soon as a consensus is achieved and there will be attempts to silence it. When in fact science is greatly benefited, in most cases by skeptics as they keep pursuing 'alternate theories' and then their science behind their failure to substantiate the alternate theory actually becomes more science in support of the prevailing theory.

Ok so you are saying you think the currently online dictionaries are wrong to use the actual word and they should edit it with Nword in exactly the way you say they should audibly.

I again, disagree.

Intended irony that the guests you name likely would never appear on a blatantly racist show???


(ok maybe Kanye would if hosted by Trump...)

I try to walk or bike ride at least an hour a day and sometimes up to 3 hours. i put an ear bud in one ear and usually run a podcast (legal discussions, entertainment ) or ebook. That lends itself to a lot of consumed material over time.

Right. Agreed.

But you cannot acknowledge that and then say they don't need to do it as they need to speak to the audience they have.

No i still have no issue with dictionaries containing words. whether it's printed, online or a speaking version (I guess they exist)

and btw my grammer is fine. D2 is lucky i dont do the silly bet thing. I can also wear a tie.

Fine. I was just venting. Carry on.