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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
What is your take on what exactly a kibbutz is?
They are or were anyway communes. Socialist. Not all farms. Some are/were built around some other industry. They are kind of dying off more less. People are aging and most of them are not really collectives anymore.
They aren't military, but Israel is very militarized and lots of people have weapons and most adults are or were in the military. I think all the kibbutzim in the area had what they called civilian defense teams.
One of the targets of 10/7 was Zikim the kibbutz and another was Zikim the military training base. They are not the same. The training base was built after the kibbutz nearby and was named after it.