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04-04-2024 , 12:18 PM

#18526

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Originally Posted by rafiki

I'm actually not talking about Hitler. I am talking about Chamberlain and his predecessors, who made ridiculous errors that were entirely preventable.

Obviously, but you're implying that the result of engaging with Iran (or similar) is Hitler (or similar).

And the predecessors of Chamberlain did not engage with Germany, they heavily sanctioned it. The problems with the Treaty of Versailles were not that it was too engaging with Germany.

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04-04-2024 , 12:19 PM

#18527

formula72

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Originally Posted by Victor

If they keep acting like Germany and try to turn this into a war with Lebanon, Syria, and Iran then I think they are cooked.

and really, I dont think they can get away with this genocide. they will forever be a pariah country.

Id imagine that israel will continue to be the pariah country for a long time but iran cant do **** and they know that no matter how much more irate they get.

This is the olds in israel running the show and wanting to clean house before they die off.

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04-04-2024 , 12:28 PM

#18528

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It would be a dream for the media to build up US Israel/ ME war like it would mayweather v Paquio but it woud also be a pretty boring fight

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04-04-2024 , 12:32 PM

#18529

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Originally Posted by formula72

Id imagine that israel will continue to be the pariah country for a long time

i mean the truth is that someone a bit less err controversial will get elected sooner or later and be like shucks we made some mistakes there, sorry about that, and the west will be like dw xx

i'm not saying that's what should happen, but it is in fact what will happen

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04-04-2024 , 12:41 PM

#18530

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Yeah no, American support for Israel isn't coming back to pre-10/7 levels for at least a generation or two.

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04-04-2024 , 12:48 PM

#18531

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its going to happen so fast you wont believe it. we might be talking months rather than years

its going to make absolutely no sense to you whatsoever

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04-04-2024 , 01:11 PM

#18532

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

its going to happen so fast you wont believe it. we might be talking months rather than years

its going to make absolutely no sense to you whatsoever

This is correct

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04-04-2024 , 01:19 PM

#18533

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Many here foaming with dilusion thinking Israel will be bastardized. It is not happening poor fools

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04-04-2024 , 01:20 PM

#18534

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Yeah no, American support for Israel isn't coming back to pre-10/7 levels for at least a generation or two.

nex time gasoline prices go up a little too much they will all forget about the gazean they never ever gave a **** about lol

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04-04-2024 , 01:21 PM

#18535

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

So, civilians?

enemy combatants. It's not like if you don't join an official state army then you can use weapons against others with impunity, or help those who do lol.

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04-04-2024 , 01:24 PM

#18536

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

"We'll let all the civilians evacuate Rafah and then bomb until Hamas goes away" sounds foolproof, let's hope everyone in Hamas remembers to wear their nametag so we know who's who.

if all the people go into camps , and ofc every single item entering the camp is verified by IDF , some unarmed hamas can be among them sure.

Do you think they will go 6-12 + months in camps, unarmed, where they can't control others in any way and so lose all their power, waiting for their name to come up on israeli lists because of confessions of others, proof found around in gaza and so on, to be executed?

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04-04-2024 , 01:27 PM

#18537

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"pariah state" (2024 datapoint is from the end of february)

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04-04-2024 , 02:11 PM

#18538

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Originally Posted by Luciom

"pariah state" (2024 datapoint is from the end of february)

mmmm, what does that same study say about Israel's favorability ratings?

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04-04-2024 , 02:12 PM

#18539

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

mmmm, what does that same study say about Israel's favorability ratings?

Isn't that the green?

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04-04-2024 , 02:48 PM

#18540

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Originally Posted by rafiki

Isn't that the green?

Yes, it's tanking.

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04-04-2024 , 03:19 PM

#18541

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https://www.thenation.com/article/wo...cre-denialism/

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04-04-2024 , 03:34 PM

#18542

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Cliff notes for vic's link:

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Genocide imperialist racist colonisation blah blah blah

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04-04-2024 , 03:37 PM

#18543

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Cliff notes is that Israel committed a ton of unhinged atrocities that will go down in history as one of the worst acts of our lifetime.

and also they are liars.

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04-04-2024 , 03:40 PM

#18544

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

Pretty sure Palestinians don’t have an army which makes them all civilians . Are you saying Hamas is an army?

So wait

They can shoot rockets at israel, kidnap and kill civilians, but you think the should be protected as civilians in a war?

That's rich, even for you

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04-04-2024 , 03:45 PM

#18545

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Microbet seems to go out of his way to hate Israel these days

I shouldn't care but it makes me sad

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04-04-2024 , 03:47 PM

#18546

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Microbet seems to go out of his way to hate Israel these days

I shouldn't care but it makes me sad

I don't hate Israel. Or not any more than most countries anyway. Or Israelis for sure.

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04-04-2024 , 04:30 PM

#18547

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hunger games **** going on. thats why Israel is worst than most other countries.

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04-04-2024 , 04:54 PM

#18548

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Originally Posted by microbet

I don't hate Israel. Or not any more than most countries anyway. Or Israelis for sure.

do you hate any countries right now? or historically?

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04-04-2024 , 04:58 PM

#18549

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GPS is being blocked across swathes of Israel in order to disrupt missiles and drones, as tensions rise with Iran.

Iran has vowed to respond after a strike on its consulate building in Syria on Monday - which Israel was widely believed to be behind - killed 13 people, including a senior general.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) also announced it was halting all leave for soldiers serving with combat units.

It comes a day after reservists were called up to bolster air defence units.

Israeli authorities seem to believe an Iranian response is imminent and could come as soon as Friday, which is Quds Day - or Jerusalem Day - the last Friday in the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68734689