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10-07-2023 , 09:16 PM

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Victor

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Rereading it, I actually don't think he will view it as a negative

10-07-2023 , 10:10 PM

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caseIIclosed

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Jfc a thread about a world event gets turned into a doctor definition argument almost immediately.

10-07-2023 , 10:28 PM

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ganstaman

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Originally Posted by sickhuman

Censorship is the silencing of unpopular opinions

Well, consider yourself censored. It is not at all appropriate (and not tolerated in this form) to call for the death of others or state that you feel some people are more valuable than others in the way that you did.

I'd lock this thread if I could remember how. It's a good topic but not with you.

10-08-2023 , 12:15 AM

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PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

Let’s start with a timeline as to how we got here

What year should we start at?

Anyone?

10-08-2023 , 12:24 AM

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caseIIclosed

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You gotta start with all the old religious stuff.

10-08-2023 , 01:08 AM

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PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

You gotta start with all the old religious stuff.

Why?

10-08-2023 , 01:28 AM

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caseIIclosed

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Because that's the context you need to explain how we got here

10-08-2023 , 02:37 AM

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seen like 90% of posts on reddit saying that they will strike back or something like that

I think conservatives are saying biden giving 6b to iran was a casue of this but who knows

10-08-2023 , 02:45 AM

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PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

Because that's the context you need to explain how we got here

So you’re saying start with the idea that 2k years ago Jewish people owned part of present day Israel.

Doesn’t that ignore the Palestinians?

10-08-2023 , 03:03 AM

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Karl_TheOG_Marx

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The Great March of Return:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E...order_protests

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...ests-explained

tl;dr: in 2018, unarmed Palestinian protestors walked up to Israel's military fences as an organized protest and were murdered by the dozens and injured by the hundreds.

Most people are going to frame this as yet another instance of one nation warring with another. It's not. It's a fight of a nation of prison wardens against their prisoners.

Israel appears to be getting owned. Palestinian fighters are making ongoing progress into Israel. They even had a paragliding division fly pretty deep into Israel! That's some cool ****.

10-08-2023 , 03:09 AM

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Karl_TheOG_Marx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TeflonDawg

Sometimes it's hard to tell, Vic, you call everyone liberals

Everyone IS liberals. Or Nazis.

Epic #RESISTANCE liberal hero John Fetterman:

Quote:

I forcefully condemn these cowardly, horrifying, unprovoked attacks on Israel by Hamas.

Attacking innocent civilians is particularly despicable and reflects the craven behavior of this terrorist group.

I unequivocally stand with the people of Israel now, and always.

10-08-2023 , 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx

Israel appears to be getting owned. Palestinian fighters are making ongoing progress into Israel. They even had a paragliding division fly pretty deep into Israel! That's some cool ****.

I doubt it's going to end well for the Palestinians

10-08-2023 , 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx

The way they killed those Israelis…so cool!!

Wtf is wrong with you?

10-08-2023 , 09:50 AM

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Trakk

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Yeah, I don’t usually like tone policing other people’s posts, but nothing about this situation should be described as cool.

10-08-2023 , 09:53 AM

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PointlessWords

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Let’s do that timeline!

So far during the conflict Israel has killed about 6k Palestinians and 600 Israelis have died. This is over past 50-70 years.

What does this number show us??

10-08-2023 , 10:00 AM

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I personally don’t think any of this is particularly cool ****.

10-08-2023 , 10:31 AM

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Makes a lot of this sense for this forum that one throwaway word in support of Palestinians would draw much more scrutiny than the opening posts itt

10-08-2023 , 10:34 AM

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Trakk

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The guy that made the opening posts was correctly banned, which suggests there was an appropriate amount of scrutiny applied there.

Not that it matters, but I do believe this is mostly a case of Israel reaping what it has sown. People dying should never be described as cool though.

10-08-2023 , 10:43 AM

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10-08-2023 , 10:46 AM

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Last edited by ganstaman; 10-08-2023 at 10:50 AM. Reason: Just put the number in the TWEET brackets, not the whole link!

10-08-2023 , 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

I personally don’t think any of this is particularly cool ****.

It would be hard to ride around on your high horse if you did.

10-08-2023 , 10:48 AM

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Dunyain

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Well, in fairness millions of people are dancing in the streets celebrating in joy across the Muslim world right now (including parts of Europe/North America), so it is not like Karl is on an island here.

10-08-2023 , 10:49 AM

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Just so there is no Ambiguity...

10-08-2023 , 10:54 AM

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Ok, there's no ambiguity. But please stop posting pictures of dead people. Not everyone wants to see that but may still want to participate in the discussion.

And while might have your attention, I fixed your Twitter posts -- just put the number from the end of the link in the tweet brackets, not the entire URL.

10-08-2023 , 11:10 AM

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The whole “dead people” images thing is something weird about our different media. In a lot of traditional media, which similarly doesn’t show such images, you got the sense quickly this was bad. But when I went on Twitter, and you see these images everywhere, man did it hit harder just how cruel these attacks were. But I also want to unsee a few of them (bucha in ukraine is permanently seered in my brain and I doubt that is healthy). Anyways this is no criticism one way or the other about gangstaman, it just got me thinking.

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