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10-25-2023 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NLOmahaHL


Almost 20 years old.
and still based
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10-25-2023 , 01:52 AM
mets, you don't see the logical flaws in absolving Israel of all civilian casualties because "other countries give them no place to escape to"

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10-25-2023 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
To your point I would say "duh". The problem with his reasoning was just what I, and then d2_e2 talked about. If you want to get into relative likelihoods of various targets, that's just nitting it up. Whether it's 1 in 50000 (based on his numbers) or 1 in 22000 is not really germane at this point.
I don't know what you are saying. What I am saying is that if a tiny asteroid gets through the atmosphere and lands on Trumps head it significantly increases the chances that someone has the ability to control asteroids. You seemed to be saying that it doesn't.
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10-25-2023 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I don't know what you are saying. What I am saying is that if a tiny asteroid gets through the atmosphere and lands on Trumps head it significantly increases the chances that someone has the ability to control asteroids. You seemed to be saying that it doesn't.
david have you been mind controlling asteroids again?
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10-25-2023 , 04:54 AM
Israel Hayom once again making the case that Gaza civilians deserve no mercy:

https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions...ce-israel-has/

https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions...-palestinians/
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10-25-2023 , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
At least when Netanyahu talks to Israelis he claims that he controls what goes in Gaza through Rafah and who it goes to.

https://www.jns.org/israel-gaza-aid-...d-for-weapons/

and Egypt claims Israel is not allowing most trucks to enter (more than 200 are lined up and have been for days and only 20 have been let through).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...afah-crossing/

"Ahmed Abu Zeid, a spokesman for Egypt’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, pinned the blame on “Israel’s targeted attacks & refusal of aid entry” "

"The United Nations has offered up their inspectors, who have conducted similar checks on aid entering northwest Syria. But a key sticking point has been that the Israelis want “direct eyes” on the crossing"

Right now israel is blocking some trucks in

But it is Egypt that is not allowing people to leave through the rafah border
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10-25-2023 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
you are arguing technicalities. I am talking about material conditions. I am a humanist, you are a Nazi.
You are the obvious antisemite but call me a Nazi?

Thatvis right out of Putin's playbook when he calls Zelenskyy a Nazi

Just wow
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10-25-2023 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
In a vacuum you are probably correct. However, I think you are discounting how Arab nations have (very successfully) put so much energy into turning the "Arab street" against Israel/the US and in support of Palestinian resistance that it would cause a lot of anger among their populace.

The hundreds of millions of Muslims (and some far left Westerners) who have been flooding the streets chanting "Death to the Jews" and "From the River to the Sea..." would be understandably very aggrieved if their leaders tried to make peace with Jews now.
The size of recent protests would suggest this is not the case. There has been a big shift in the perception of Hamas in the past 10-15 years. Nowadays they are viewed as much Iranian lackeys as Arabic resistance.
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10-25-2023 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I don't know what you are saying. What I am saying is that if a tiny asteroid gets through the atmosphere and lands on Trumps head it significantly increases the chances that someone has the ability to control asteroids. You seemed to be saying that it doesn't.
Maybe you didn't follow from the beginning. Shrug. I'm not disagreeing with your Trump asteroid.
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10-25-2023 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Right now israel is blocking some trucks in

But it is Egypt that is not allowing people to leave through the rafah border
Did you notice that I bolded one line and it wasn't the one about Egypt not letting people out?
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10-25-2023 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
You are the obvious antisemite but call me a Nazi?

Thatvis right out of Putin's playbook when he calls Zelenskyy a Nazi

Just wow
Victor's not an antisemite. There are lots of antisemites and lots of the anti-Israel stuff in the world is anti-Semitic, but stop making that thing true where someone gets called anti-Semitic *just* because they criticize Israel.
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10-25-2023 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Did you notice that I bolded one line and it wasn't the one about Egypt not letting people out?
Egypt generally controls that border. At this time Israel is blocking some trucks from coming in. My point was israel would be okay with people leaving Gaza. They are not the ones preventing that
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10-25-2023 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Victor's not an antisemite. There are lots of antisemites and lots of the anti-Israel stuff in the world is anti-Semitic, but stop making that thing true where someone gets called anti-Semitic *just* because they criticize Israel.
Bs

Calling me a Nazi is antisemitic
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10-25-2023 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
The size of recent protests would suggest this is not the case. There has been a big shift in the perception of Hamas in the past 10-15 years. Nowadays they are viewed as much Iranian lackeys as Arabic resistance.
Which really invites the question, how much are people overestimating the conflict between Sunni and Shia everywhere? Maybe it's more about something else like class.
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10-25-2023 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Bs

Calling me a Nazi is antisemitic
But thanks for not criticizing him for calling me a Nazi, only criticizing me for calling him an antisemite

Seems fair
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10-25-2023 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Egypt generally controls that border. At this time Israel is blocking some trucks from coming in. My point was israel would be okay with people leaving Gaza. They are not the ones preventing that
Correct. They seem to be trying to expel people. They are restricting aid though...partially controlling the border, and being somewhere near the border. Did you notice how I bolded that one line? Do you understand how that works?

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Bs

Calling me a Nazi is antisemitic
It's offensive, but still, Victor's not an antisemite. It's very easy to understand his position on Israel from his politics generally.

Last edited by microbet; 10-25-2023 at 08:16 AM.
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10-25-2023 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
But thanks for not criticizing him for calling me a Nazi, only criticizing me for calling him an antisemite

Seems fair
I like Victor and have no obligation to be fair to you in particular.

Aren't you a Trumpstain? Talk about antisemites.
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10-25-2023 , 07:59 AM
Gets my goat that some Jews pal around with these rwnj Republicans and Jew hating evangelicals just because they support Israel so much. They'd be happy to expel you from the US and send you to Jew country the same as some people think the Palestinians should be expelled to live in an Arab country.
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10-25-2023 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I like Victor and have no obligation to be fair to you in particular.

Aren't you a Trumpstain? Talk about antisemites.
So you like Victor so you're okay with him calling people nazis

Thanks for clarifying
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10-25-2023 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Gets my goat that some Jews pal around with these rwnj Republicans and Jew hating evangelicals just because they support Israel so much. They'd be happy to expel you from the US and send you to Jew country the same as some people think the Palestinians should be expelled to live in an Arab country.

If the evangelicals didn't support Israel, it likely wouldn't exist. Whether they support Israel for selfish reasons that have nothing to do with liking Jews is irrelevant to me

If i did get expelled at least i would have Israel to go to. Why will nobody accept the Palestinians?
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10-25-2023 , 09:14 AM
microbet recently called me a holocaust denier in some other thread for unknown reasons (i think i was calling him out at the time for supporting putin's invasion). his radar seems a bit off
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10-25-2023 , 09:15 AM
"I like victor, so it's okay that he calls you a nazi Mets because i don't like you. "
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10-25-2023 , 09:26 AM
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microbet recently called me a holocaust denier in some other thread for unknown reasons (i think i was calling him out at the time for supporting putin's invasion). his radar seems a bit off
If you don't want to be called a holocaust denier you should probably stop saying Ukrainians who volunteered for the Nazis and served as concentration camp guards were the same as Jewish concentration camp inmates forced to punish other prisoners.
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10-25-2023 , 09:27 AM
Amazing statement from Turkish President Erdogan.
Paraphrasing, ' Hamas is a liberation group fighting to protect the people of Gaza'.
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10-25-2023 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Gets my goat that some Jews pal around with these rwnj Republicans and Jew hating evangelicals just because they support Israel so much. They'd be happy to expel you from the US and send you to Jew country the same as some people think the Palestinians should be expelled to live in an Arab country.


There's 2.4 million living in 140 Square miles in awful living conditions. I'm confident many would want to immigrate to Egypt or Jordan. And there is room for them. But neither country will take them, even as temporary refugees during a war

And why the **** does it get your giat who jews support? Jews have to be democrats? Jews have to hate Trump? Maybe they support Trump for economic reasons?

Nah it gets your goat. Those jews should hate Trump! Maybe they are nazi jews like you think i am
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