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05-18-2024 , 10:43 AM
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05-18-2024 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Does "amounts to torture" mean the same thing as "torture"? Odd phrasing.
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05-18-2024 , 11:56 AM
You could always read the article and decide for yourself.
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05-18-2024 , 12:45 PM
The non woke world is once again on Israel's side. They have seen the behavior of the protestors and now realize why Israel is doing what it is doing. Palestinians have no one to blame but themselves. You teach others how to treat you. Act like a civilized person and you will be treated like a civilized person.
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05-18-2024 , 12:56 PM
I get that all powerful people and nations lie. but why is Israel so bad at it?



I thought I remembered they had found her months ago. and I dont get how the body could be in such good condition. it makes no sense.
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05-18-2024 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
The non woke world is once again on Israel's side. They have seen the behavior of the protestors and now realize why Israel is doing what it is doing. Palestinians have no one to blame but themselves. You teach others how to treat you. Act like a civilized person and you will be treated like a civilized person.
Perfect example of the kind of empty rhetoric you’d just as likely hear from a Hamas supporter.
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05-18-2024 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You could always read the article and decide for yourself.
Yeah it seems like Hamas prisoners are being tortured in Israeli prisons. Not to the degree that Israeli women were tortured on October 7, but tortured nonetheless. Still wrong.
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05-18-2024 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
The non woke world is once again on Israel's side. They have seen the behavior of the protestors and now realize why Israel is doing what it is doing. Palestinians have no one to blame but themselves. You teach others how to treat you. Act like a civilized person and you will be treated like a civilized person.
Meaningless guff.
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05-18-2024 , 01:54 PM
BTW its a GENOCIDE.

researchers from yale university, cornell law school, boston university and pretoria university have concluded that.


https://www.democracynow.org/2024/5/...nocide_in_gaza

Last edited by washoe; 05-18-2024 at 02:08 PM.
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05-18-2024 , 02:00 PM
“Biden Is Making Jews the Face of the War Machine”: First Jewish Biden Appointee Resigns over Gaza"
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05-18-2024 , 02:01 PM
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Yeah it seems like Hamas prisoners are being tortured in Israeli prisons. Not to the degree that Israeli women were tortured on October 7, but tortured nonetheless. Still wrong.
Barghouti is not Hamas. hes never been Hamas. he was in a separate political party. nor was he free on Oct 7 or anytime in the last 22 years.

this stuff is easy to look up. its not good to just make assumptions.

and ofc they are being mistreated far worse than Israeli women were. they are running literal torture camps. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middl...cmd/index.html the vast majority are not Hamas or even Resistance in anyway.
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05-18-2024 , 02:16 PM
University officials at my school officially shut down the quad this week after the building was defaced in some places on the bordering buildings. Between graffiti, etchings into windows, and peeing on the building, enough was enough, and right by them. The protest was ay-OK for weeks until these things started to occur around last Wednesday when a large protest occurred. The rumor is that local black bloc'ers unaffiliated with the school infiltrated the encampments and rallied people into vandalism. I can buy this, but I can also buy that students got really drunk and high and have just gone nuts.
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05-18-2024 , 02:21 PM
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05-18-2024 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
The non woke world is once again on Israel's side. They have seen the behavior of the protestors and now realize why Israel is doing what it is doing. Palestinians have no one to blame but themselves. You teach others how to treat you. Act like a civilized person and you will be treated like a civilized person.
Don't become what you hate.
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05-18-2024 , 03:34 PM
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05-18-2024 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Yeah right on time. Figured it would take him less than a week.

This is the end of the gov now I'd say.
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05-18-2024 , 06:54 PM
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
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05-18-2024 , 07:01 PM
At this point in time it goes without saying. This will go down as one of the greatest hoaxes of our lives.

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05-18-2024 , 07:10 PM
What Gallant is objecting to he's doing so as a general, not a politician. He's doing everything he can to avoid ISRAELI military occupation of the style Bibi wanted, which includes the risk of settlements. In that sense Gallant/Gantz view of things is very different from the Bibi one. So believe me if you care as much about Gaza as I think you do, this is still good news. It's all relative.
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05-18-2024 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
BTW its a GENOCIDE.

researchers from yale university, cornell law school, boston university and pretoria university have concluded that.


https://www.democracynow.org/2024/5/...nocide_in_gaza
They said "genocidal acts". Every war has "genocidal acts".

Also, no one should listen to creepy libs from a creepy university. They all hate Jews.
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05-18-2024 , 07:23 PM
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At this point in time it goes without saying. This will go down as one of the greatest hoaxes of our lives.

The women who were raped by these animals have spoken.
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05-18-2024 , 07:26 PM
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What Gallant is objecting to he's doing so as a general, not a politician. He's doing everything he can to avoid ISRAELI military occupation of the style Bibi wanted, which includes the risk of settlements. In that sense Gallant/Gantz view of things is very different from the Bibi one. So believe me if you care as much about Gaza as I think you do, this is still good news. It's all relative.
from the Palestinian perspective and the Resistance, I dont think a coalition occupation is all that different than an Israeli occupation.

other than that, it seems that Gallant is just playing politics and trying to nail Bibi down on something that his group can use to leverage power.

Im a softie pink commie. I dont care about their posturing. I am able to look at things from the Palestinian perspective on first glance and then read their voices from there. from what I have read, they dont gaf about this nor will they submit to it.
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05-18-2024 , 07:30 PM
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Don't become what you hate.
I'm a firm believer that people create their conditions. Decisions lead to consequences that shape who you are. It's not a coincidence that Gaza is getting pounded. Keep playing the victim and you will always be the victim. I can mention certain flavors of people in our society who feel they are victims and never grow out of it. Other flavors of people have over come horrible things in their lives and become more successful because of it.

The Poor baby Palestinian story is just the flavor of the day. Notice how no one cares about Ukraine anymore. Obviously these people don't care about the hundreds of other atrocities going on around the world.
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05-18-2024 , 07:34 PM
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The women who were raped by these animals have spoken.
ok so his is objectively false. maybe you could provide a source bc I think you are mistaken.

not only have no women spoken out, even anonymously, nor have any medical personal or counselors divulged they have treated any.





https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/...rtz-october-7/

one of the greatest hoaxes of all time and used to murder babies in Gaza. just depraved when you think about it.
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05-18-2024 , 07:36 PM
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from the Palestinian perspective and the Resistance, I dont think a coalition occupation is all that different than an Israeli occupation.

other than that, it seems that Gallant is just playing politics and trying to nail Bibi down on something that his group can use to leverage power.

Im a softie pink commie. I dont care about their posturing. I am able to look at things from the Palestinian perspective on first glance and then read their voices from there. from what I have read, they dont gaf about this nor will they submit to it.
The Gazans will need to be occupied and run by Israel for at least 20 years. The education system will need to be overhauled. The youth will need to be reeducated. The remaining Hamas sympathizers will need to be hunted down. Also, Hezbollah will need to be destroyed in the north. A simple statement of "We accept Israel as a legitimate state" will go a long ways toward the Gazans governing themselves. Ultimately, it would be best for the world to find a different place for them to live and possibly create their own nation.
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