Nice try but these sections don't speak for all Jewish people.

lets not compare the current

-mass murder of people
-mass decapitation of people
-mass burying alive of people
-mass burning alive of people
-mass blowing up of people
-mass starvation of people
-mass amputation of people
-mass torture of people where they are forced to sit blindfolded and in diapers for months on end
-destruction of all infrastucture including electricity, water, housing

to the holocaust he says.

then proceeds to do just that

rules for thee but not for me.

you know what I find offensive? the trivialization and justification and outright lying about the most atrocious mass murder event of my lifetime.

Can I compare Israel to other highly developed and industrialized nations committing mass murder on a captive population? well, when I find a more apt comparison I will use it.

lol I swear I made my post before seeing this

but great minds...!

It's why I said sections and you know damn well such a comparison isn't apt. And why do all Jewish people have to be offended as if they're a hive mind like The Borg? It's offensive to some of the Jewish community and more specifically some of the posters itt , not all of them Jews either, so why even go there to begin with unless your intention is to at best antagonise and at worse have a sly dig? Either way it's bad faith arguing which we're trying to get rid of.

bc I dont care about your crocodile tears while Zionists are committing


-mass murder of people
-mass decapitation of people
-mass burying alive of people
-mass burning alive of people
-mass blowing up of people
-mass starvation of people
-mass amputation of people
-mass torture of people where they are forced to sit blindfolded and in diapers for months on end
-destruction of all infrastucture including electricity, water, housing

Something being offensive to some section of an ethnicity isn't sufficient reason on its own for action, especially when other sections of the same ethnicity are clearly diametrically opposed to that view.

The real question is why are you ignoring the expressed views of the second set?

I'm respectfully asking you to quit with the Nazi comparisons. You can make an argument and criticise Israel and the IDF without comparing them to Nazis every second or third post. Give it a rest.

I dont answer to you.

If the Holocaust had been primarily against another ethnic group and not Jewish people, would you still object to the Gaza comparison? Serious question.

I've already told you it's a bad faith argument at best and anti Semitic at worst. Why are you ignoring the expressed views of the first set?
Maybe some black people don;t find the n word offensive, should posters therefore be allowed to use it? Same principal applies here. It's irrelevant if you or some Jews don't regard it as anti Semitic. It's equally considered anti Semitic by other Jews and non Jews for that matter as it's always the Nazis innit? Never Stalinist Russia or Maoist China or the authoritarianism of Lukashenko, no. The comparison has to be of the group which engaged in genocide against Jews doesn't it? Just to hammer things home and give 'em a reminder? The fact that it's considered anti Semitic even if you disagree it should be, is reason enough to refrain from it.
So again... why even go there?

Yes as nothing remotely approaching the Holocaust is happening in Gaza and if you think it is, then you need to share the clearly groovy drugs you're taking.

Is that a refusal to refrain from it so?

It hardly needs to be said that some Jewish people and Jewish groups regard any comparison of Israel's acts with the Nazis unacceptable and anti-semitic. This is well-known. And I totally agree that great care has to be taken before making such comparisons.

So for you it's purely a question of scale?

I refer you to my first response.

Antisemites don't want to participate unless they can call Jews Nazis

If your goal is to get anyone who doesn't hate Jews to leave you may succeed

Maybe that's true of anti-semites but no one here is "calling Jews Nazis". They are comparing the Israeli government's actions with those of Nazi Germany, and its anti-semitic of you to equate Israel with Jews.

for the post in question, this is not what happened.

this whole derail is about something that didnt happen.

thats not even what my post was. I just mentioned 2 groups that I dont want to associate with in my personal life. at best there was a tenuous implicit comparison.

Whatever well-intentioned bigbrains like Einstein thought, and whatever the Balfour Declaration said about the Jewish national homeland being established without prejudice to the rights of the native Arab population, Zionism follows its founder, Herzl, who in The Jewish State in 1896 clearly argued for Jewish supremacy in Palestine.

The Arabs were beneath consideration and were simply supposed to go away. Herzl was interested in the way the US government had seized 'Indian' land for settlement, but thought Zionists could do it in a better organised manner.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2528...-h/25282-h.htm

as far as we know the settlers just shoot palestinian people and then take their land. sometimes they raped them to death.
thats about as SS as it can get.
that and the random shooting of people.


now they are just straight up bombing infants.

victor, show him the video where they joke about having raped people to death.

where is it? its somewhere in this thread.

You can't compare anything Israel's doing to the Holocaust at this point. The methodology isn't there. On the other hand, the people who suffered most from Nazi aggression were the Soviets, with about 20 million killed, yet the Soviets are (not wrongly) compared to the Nazis because of Stalin's vast appetite for repression and killing.

oh I think its from the documentary Tantura. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16378034/

some pretty chilling remarks in there but he doesnt say they raped her to complete death.