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04-30-2024 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I think they correctly dont give a **** what you think
This is correct. They have staged an insurrection, they are now the law, and their laws are "no Zionists allowed on campus." Simple as that.
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04-30-2024 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I guess they didn't think he was trying to to just walk thru but rather wanted to cause an escalation.
Wait until you hear what MLK and Rosa Parks were up to in 1955.
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04-30-2024 , 09:12 AM
They aren't blocking Zionists from campus
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04-30-2024 , 09:13 AM
I want to give you guys an example of a super antisemite meme, that circulates basically only in alt-right circles (but i might not be as knowledgeable of tankie twitter as victor is) , that is actually part of a discourse that needs some context to be instantly recognizeable (here the pattern is "very succesful people in history who were antisemites").

The main neo-nazi / white supremacy twitter account (garbage human) got 11k like with this today



Meme is smart to bypass censorship on most platforms, because it can always be said that "see how even intelligent people can be very wrong, beware!", while of course it's "see one of the most intelligent man was antisemite and believed jews are behind everything bad, you should too".

This is to make it clear no one here is saying that's only the radical left which is antisemite.

These people are having so much fun rn, basically anytime either an IDF or Hamas dies, or a Israeli civilian or a palestinian civilian dies, the world is a better place for them.
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04-30-2024 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Wait until you hear what MLK and Rosa Parks were up to in 1955.
I don't think we're letting kkk members I to their demonstrations
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04-30-2024 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
very unlikely.. also is "Zionist" a protected class?
I guess that is the legal question, and how careful the protestors are being to only singling out "Zionists" and not "Jews" for their 'separate but equal' treatment.

-I scraped this off the internet of relevant laws that are possibly being violated.
In CA, a government run school telling the police not to intervene in behavior threatening to an ethnic minority is a violation of:

Fed. law Title VI
Fed. law Section 1983
CA Civil Code Section 51
CA Government Code Section 11135
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04-30-2024 , 09:20 AM
--And it goes without saying none of this is doing anything for the Palestinian people, or even Hamas. You could argue it is doing the opposite, if you think DJT being the next president will be bad for Palestinians/Hamas.

This is just narcissistic children making it all about them.
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04-30-2024 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
But then why even give him the attention? I don't get it. He gets nothing walking through
Similar to the London Israel fund-raiser who was "just walking through" a large demo to get to the other side, only without the Israeli security agents that he had.
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04-30-2024 , 09:31 AM
I didn't realize the Democratic convention was being held in Chicago. With all the echos of 1968 I'm going to start loading up on popcorn now.
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04-30-2024 , 09:49 AM
Why was that kid singled out?
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04-30-2024 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Why was that kid singled out?
I dont think he was singled out. The UCLA komrades have established "liberated zones" where no Zionists are allowed to enter. Any self professed Zionist would have been rejected. I am sure if he had hidden his Star of David and professed his loyalty to the Party he would have been allowed through.
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04-30-2024 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
I guess that is the legal question, and how careful the protestors are being to only singling out "Zionists" and not "Jews" for their 'separate but equal' treatment.

-I scraped this off the internet of relevant laws that are possibly being violated.
In CA, a government run school telling the police not to intervene in behavior threatening to an ethnic minority is a violation of:

Fed. law Title VI
Fed. law Section 1983
CA Civil Code Section 51
CA Government Code Section 11135
even in the staged video which is clearly light most favorable to the plaintiff it's clear that they weren't preventing a protected class from entering their encampment, but at best a political opinion.
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04-30-2024 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
I want to give you guys an example of a super antisemite meme, that circulates basically only in alt-right circles...
Which Nazi website did you first see it on?
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04-30-2024 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Why was that kid singled out?
Looks to me like he was a known provocateur who was trying to start trouble in the encampment. He wasn't barred from campus, just from walking through the encampment. This is how people committed to nonviolence deal with *******s.
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04-30-2024 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Meme is smart to bypass censorship on most platforms, because it can always be said that "see how even intelligent people can be very wrong, beware!", while of course it's "see one of the most intelligent man was antisemite and believed jews are behind everything bad, you should too".
One would have to be quite daft to sincerely interpret that meme in this way.
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04-30-2024 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Which Nazi website did you first see it on?
twitter, i monitor alt right and tankie main accounts
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04-30-2024 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
One would have to be quite daft to sincerely interpret that meme in this way.
ofc but it's "plausible deniability" to avoid platform censoring and also actual laws in countries that consider antisemitic messages a crime
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04-30-2024 , 12:36 PM
Dunno where that gate was, but if it was just through their encampment area they were blocking everyone who didn't get approved and issued a wristband when I was there. When I was there though it was trivial to walk around the barricaded area - not sure how much that has changed - and someone could film something to make it look like it was a lot more in the way than it really was if they wanted to.
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04-30-2024 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
twitter, i monitor alt right and tankie main accounts
So you posted an altright meme and blamed leftists?
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04-30-2024 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
So you posted an altright meme and blamed leftists?
hm no? i posted an alright meme as written to clarify that antisemitism is very strong among them as well? can you guys read?
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04-30-2024 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
hm no? i posted an alright meme as written to clarify that antisemitism is very strong among them as well? can you guys read?
Oh late in this thread, I'm starting to wonder.
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04-30-2024 , 12:51 PM
"Intifada" is clearly just about trying to "stop the genocide" of course

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/statu...88606384537861
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04-30-2024 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I think they correctly dont give a **** what you think
I think most of these idiots don't even know why they are there. They don't even know what "From the river to the sea" means. They have no clue about history. This is by far the dumbest generation of kids the world has ever seen.
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04-30-2024 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood
Looks to me like he was a known provocateur who was trying to start trouble in the encampment. He wasn't barred from campus, just from walking through the encampment. This is how people committed to nonviolence deal with *******s.
Don't you think the Hamas supporters are the provocateurs?
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04-30-2024 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
UCLA encampment looks like it expanded. Maybe they were miffed that they were being left alone.
I wonder when these nuts are gonna start lighting themselves on fire.
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