Not if it would increase the chances that Trump becomes president again. The days when people thought that things being right and fair, even if it means their preferred choice loses a major election, are long gone. Someone needs to inform the attorneys.

The only ones who think Hunter will help get Trump elected again are Trumpderps as they are being passively monetized with that clickbait messaging, and ideally those same derps will repeat that Hunter #1 issue belief structure that they had in 2020.

All the best.

Don’t listen to Monty, you guys, Huntergate is a critical issue that voters will really care about in 2024.

Sure.

But i don't think a single Democrat voter thinks Hunter getting charged and convicted would move the needle to get Trump elected.

So only if you impose a condition 'they must think it would increase the chances of Trump getting elected' is that true. In reality I don't 1% of the Dem voters are worried about currently and would care even if Hunter was convicted.

I always wonder what kind of policies the huntergate affected the day to day life’s of Americans .

You really need to ask the passive derps who consume the Hunter content created for them that question. Seems a lot of them consume a huge amount of that type of content, so safe to say it has an impact on their daily lives, albeit one they voluntarily choose.

I was not speaking about day to day life entertainment

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Lozen the bi-curious right winger is easily fooled

My post did not give an opinion about whether Hunter's arrest would change the election or whether people thought it would. It had nothing to do with that.

bc these people refuse to deal in facts. instead they make up arguments like this, or "blame the messenger". nevermind that all of these facts are reported by mainstream outlets and some of the more risque parts are reported by right AND far left sources. so long as CNN doesnt "signal boost" this, then QP and the Dems feel comfortable ignoring it.

nice burn on QP but a bit pot kettle for yourself.

I mean if you want to call Noam Chomsky a derp then ok. kinda shows your ability to synthesize analysis.

damn near every post in this thread. really, just about every post you make. I do find it hilarious that you call me a Trumpderp as it absolutely shows how narrow your worldview remains in that even the slightest perception of criticism for the Dems causes you to make wild accusations.

Hardly. I do not pretend to be an expert in a lot of the political areas, as I have minimal interest in politics. You pretend to know what you are talking about here, but at least at times your bad takes are in a fun end of world manifesto whiny way. Now, I do understand derp behavior though - I have a lot of experience interacting and monetizing derps, so in that area I do have some expertise. That is why my interactions with you are always one sided.

I did not call him a derp. I am not familiar with him. I called you a derp, because you are one. I also called you a liar because you lie all the time. You have yet to provide a link for your latest claim about me (as expected) and of course when you asked me to do the same - I did just that, because I do not lie all the time like you.

If every damn post I make fits your assessment of me "defending the Democrats to the end" then you should be able to link a single one, yet you have not done so, because you cannot. No idea how much of a Trumpderp you are, but you definitely are a person that passively consumes a ton of content that tells you what you want to see. I can only imagine what your search engine optimization gets for you. Actually, I prefer not to imagine that.

Last, be sure to spend a lot more time on the Hunter issue as it should be a priority for you and others like you in future election cycles.

All the best.

You def sound like a guy with no interest in politics!

Anyway maybe learn who Chomsky is before lecturing people on media consumption.

I made a lot of money with politics so I have an interest in that regard, but that was the good thing about derps like you and others - I could monetize you without having to bore myself with the details. Just look at what people like you are thinking will happen and bet the opposite.

I have no interest in learning about someone that you spend time learning from, because that is part of made you have the way you look at life, and I kind of will go with the opposite approach. You have a very whiny, paranoid emo outlook. Probably works for you after all these years, but I will pass on that approach for myself. You keep using your sources as you need and let me and others know what you think will happen in the political arena, particularly with election cycles that involve a large wagering market. Thanks!

All the best.

I still don't get how Hunter Biden can possibly be charged with federal crimes while everyone at the DOJ ultimately serves at the pleasure of his father....unless the people making the claims are tacitly admitting that Joe Biden isn't corrupt without realizing it. Which given the caliber of posters talking about Biden family corruption would hardly be a shocker.

You can contrast that with Trump who flat out said publicly that no investigations of his family would be allowed while he was president.

I dont care how much money you made off politics. truly, no one does. you didnt make anything off of me nor would you ever. nor did you make anything off of people "like me".

you and QP think I am some sort of Trumper or right winger bc I dont march lockstep with WAPO and the Dems. thats bc you are either lying or stupid. proly a bit of both.

I certainly did, and a few people asked me in PMs at the time how to to it and I did share the info to them. Some made decent money after as well. People like money and no matter what you want to believe they will care if a person can show them how to make money that works. Now, people like you always miss the boat in that regard, and then say nobody cares after. I always look at that as a bonus when I find a way to break an inefficient system.

Actually I make quite a bit off people like you, even if you do not see how it works. Do you hand me over your life bankroll of 12 bucks? No. But you and other massively -EV people have a voice and last election that voice was being listened to by Trump and his derp handlers to placate him, and given how massively those -EV voices were - that created the biggest betting event in history, because there was no shortage of people happy to take the other side for that extremely rare situation.

That is the beauty of it. It does not matter if you as a human did any wagering. Your voice and other voices helped the derps that did wager spew as much as they did, so indeed you helped contribute to the situation, even if you do not think you did, and that is why I repeatedly thanked the derps years ago as they were doing it, because I knew at the time they would also not think they were contributing in the way they were and they were incapable of change. Hunter and other derp topics then. Hunter now.

You bounce back and forth between me being a Trumper and a massive blame Trumpers/support Democrats when I do not post in that way ever. You literally can only see the world in your narrow way even when I literally break down every step of what I did, and like I said above - I do it because I know people like you will never get it and will never change. Anyway, you need to do some more Hunter research as that should be a huge topic in 2024. Consult your buddy Chumlee as needed.

All the best.

what are you even talking about here?

what was "my voice" in the last election? how was Trump and his handlers listening to people like me?

you make a lot of claims as nebulous as they may be. and you never back anything up. we both know why.

wasnt Biden like a 3:1 favorite?

btw, how did you do in 2016?

That whole whiny bring the system down voice. Trump latched onto that and ran one of the best campaigns in 2016 as that was the right time and right place. 2020 featured 4 years of his derp, so by then people were much more familiar and tired of his routines, so when he tried even harder to appeal to the derpy whiners of the world it backfired hard.

Not on the betting sites. He was even a bigger favorite with the Nate Silver polling, but the betting sites had so much Trump money bet that they had to create artificially wrong odds to get enough counter money so that they were not in a vulnerable position. The betting sites want guaranteed money, not to bet on an uncertain outcome, and nobody was saying it was 100/0. Here is a bit of a recap of it

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-gambling.html

Note, I made decent but not massive money on bets after the election was over. Many of these sites made millions in that time. It was that inefficient and your voice was among the millions that helped create that situation, so while I may have fun at your expense, I also genuinely thank you for that as well as it benefited me quite a bit.

Since that election the derp money has been sucked out by those who create content to monetize them by telling them what they want to hear, and that was not something I could compete in, so fair play to those that did it, whether they even believe the nonsense they post or not. As long as the derps consume it that is all they need.



Think I lost a hundred bucks on Intertops if I bet at all. I do not recall. The market was not as inefficient and there was not nearly as much wagering for a variety of reasons. Was probably a good year to bet on Trump for the math of it, but I could not bet on that Derp winning, so I just passed on that one. Political betting really exploded for the 2020 election cycle. The amount of types of wagers on all the sites went up 10 fold or more from 2016 where it was more a fringe market. Not sure what to expect in 2024 yet!

I do not actually bet for the sake of betting and the event I bet big on before the 2020 election was the first McGregor/Mayweather fight because that market was as crazy inefficient as it gets due to all the derpy racist money betting on McGregor. Think that was a genuine 100-1 situation (at best) that was almost 2-1 for wagering, with the bonus of taking derpy racist money (albeit indirectly). Hope that explained it more for you, though not sure if this post makes me a huge Trumper or huge Democrat. You bounce between them so you can choose either or pick a new category as you see fit!

All the best.

at first I thought this was an honest post from you for once. but then I read it a lot more closely.

first I was only gonna take issue with this part but...

the system aint coming down and Trump is about as much a product of the system as anyone. Ive been consistent with that. but even Bernie wasnt bringing anything down. proly bc they bring out the real heart attack gun if he wins but even if they dont, the Dems and Repubs would actually go bipartisan against him.

so you made most of your money during the actual election? I remember the UP libs were absolutely apoplectic that Trump was gonna win.

from the article: The “so-called ‘bookies’ ” never had Trump as a 97 percent favorite, but late on the night of Nov. 3, many online sportsbooks did indeed favor him to win the presidency. At points between 10 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. Eastern, many of these bookmakers—all of which are offshore, because election betting is not legal in the United States—posted odds that gave Trump around a 70 percent chance of victory. At 10:30 p.m., one of the most popular offshore books for U.S. bettors, Costa Rica–based Bovada, had Trump at -775, meaning a successful $775 bet would return $100 in profit. It implied an 89 percent chance that Trump would win.

yes I remember this

and here come the lies:

this is truly one of the stupidest things said on this forum

convenient

probably?

convenient

people on this very site made and lost a ton of money betting in 2016. ofc more went in for 2020 (thats the nature of things...they grow) but 2016 had tons of bets.

and fwiw, the Trumpers made a ton of money off Dems on this very site. everyone knows about Awice!

it will have more wagers than 2020.

good for you.

I do think that getting Biden as a 3:1 favorite was a really bad bet. Just like Clinton at similar was a bad bet. but really, any president election at 3:1 would be bad.

That is your personalized manifesto stuff again, which I do not care about in the slightest. I do not care what you think of the "system," because its fringy whateverburger stuff. What I did care about then was that the fringy whateverburgers were being listened to and catered to by the derp 2020 Trump campaign. That was massively -EV after 4 years of his derp, so it created a fantastic math situation. If you read the article I linked you will see that the sheer number of Trump betters were massive but always bet smaller on average ($50-500) than the Biden betters who were fewer but bet many times more per bet. Which side do you think the smart money was being used on? I make no secret that I have fun with all varieties of riggies, but this was a rare time where that could also be monetized (albeit with some risk) so I took that chance, and in this case it paid off. It was never 100/0 - it was just a math play.

The rest of your posts seem to be trying to debate a topic that you are obviously clueless on or hope some things happened that never did. The markets went crazy on election night, but those markets were mostly the ones where the betters create the price for the bets and the sites essentially charge a rake to provide the forum for that. They win no matter which side wins, so the price goes up and down based on the inefficient betters. The sites that take all their bets against themselves adjust the odds based on the money on both sides to try to mitigate risk, so it is different even though the swings are likely going int he same direction in terms of pricing.

The pricing on election night was crazy, but it was also inefficient as it did not properly account for the areas where the votes had not been counted in places like Georgia. It was pretty obvious Biden was going to win close ones even when he was "losing" based on that but it took the betting market, filled with Trumpderps, a bit of time to adjust to that reality, but it did and the pricing changed dramatically even before Biden was officially ahead in any of those states. The after election betting was just pure exploitation by the sites. They essentially were the first ones (after Trump himself) to really monetize those derps by giving them something they wanted at the time, even though those derps had zero chance to win. Like them or not, those derps spend hard on their beliefs.

None of the above is a secret. I was active here and elsewhere in this area months before the election and posted many of my wagers and even got every state correct (though obviously nearly every one is a given who will win). You can create whatever you want to believe about how I did in that event. No difference to me. You and others like you served your purpose then, and who knows - maybe you can in 2024 as well. That is why we need to get back on topic here and talk about Hunter, so feel free to do some research with Chumlee and Rick and Cory and report your findings along with your analysis on Hunter and how the corrupt evil system or whatever does its evil system stuff. Hunter 2024 is important so stay on it.

All the best.

monty and victor, isn't that something...

do you guys know what's the problem now with the laptop?

the problem it's we are not a banana republic, things like this should never happen. that's pure corruption and now a war. biden should never have become president. it's a pure joke that's the best you got.

and tell me where stuff like this has happened before. never in history. you only hear things like this from banana republics. ok? high corruption 3 world countries the cracked up son sits on boards of the enemy of the enemy. that's biff tanner wrong.

The saddest part is that washoe hasn't a clue that almost 100% of his posts (including the above) are just pure babbling.

no it was a direct refutation of your assertion

ok but I am not sure what that has to do with me. I think you are pretty confused. congrats on winning money tho! I heard you won money of some people that were not me. not sure where I heard that from. oh well, congrats nevertheless.

again congrats!

uhhh wat. I remember when UP and 2p2 were absolutely apoplectic that Trump was gonna win. that was a good time to bet Biden! just like in 2016 when Hilldawg was like 90%, it was a really good time to bet Trump!

again, congrats. but again, I dunno what that has to do with me.

this is your topic. not mine. if you find me a post where I say that Hunter will or could cost the Dems anything then I will pay you 1k straightaway. if you cant, which you wont, then you pay me 1k.

Hunter and Joe are just another indication of the corruption and rot and they did shady things in Ukraine. you try to obfuscate and deflect and bring up an election for 2 years ago for gawd knows what reason (actually we all know the reason, its bc you are insecure and feel the need to brag that you won a few bets...its pretty pathetic)

You really place a lot of value on you specifically as a person when that is not the thing that matters. You are part of the derpoverse that allowed the Trump campaign to run one of the worst campaigns ever to appeal to all their derps, years after that routine stopped working on a national stage. I do not care what specific role you play in it - you are just another whiny voice, nothing more, and all of those helped create the unique opportunity of 2020.

I have no idea what UP means other than a Pixar movie title, but yeah there were tons of derps that were saying Trump was going to win here in 2020 and I encouraged them at that time to keep going with their "important" issues like Hunter and Hillary's emails 4 years later. I literally laugh that that may be a thing again in 2024 for the same derps. Perhaps Hillary's emails will make a comeback!

I don't think you are the person to talk about wagering about "if you can find a post, " since one of your main things is lying about what others post all the time. You never find a post to back those claims.

My suggestion is you keep being you, but that will always be the case because you are pretty hard wired by now. Make sure your voice and your LOLconcerns are heard by those running for office that you support so I can then bet against them if that opportunity presents itself in 2024 like it did in 2020. If your thing is you never vote nor support anyone - no problem! Keep being that emo "sees the world for what it really is" rebel with a loud, derpy voice that demands to be heard and the right people will hopefully latch on and try to appeal to that. Did you notice the pun I made with the word "right" there? You probably did after you read that.

All the best.