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As always in the gun control debate - the exact set of federal laws we still have are [unclear/ineffectual/we don't talk about them]. But any alteration of said laws - to make any type of gun slightly harder to get for any type of person is always [THE ROAD TO TYRANNY].

Existing background checks? Either ineffectual or unclear.

Tightening loopholes to require background checks for private sales and gun shows? You know that's the road to tyranny.

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Are you still against a person owning a shotgun for self defense?

Morning all

I'm off to brainwashing camp

We got a guest speaker today ; nancy Pelosi

she's going to tell us how to get a medical marijuana card

afterwards she's going to show us her conceal carry permit

Nope. Never have been

"Reason is and ought only be the slave of the passions" - Hume

I'll speak to this and hopefully bring to light Hume's difficulty.

A "passion" or "desire" , in his method of presentation appears to conjure up a subconscious realm to which thought is lacking . An example , to me appears clear as to what we are involved with.

"Hunger" is an impulse which we can all relate to, especially as children. It appears to come out of that darkness to which you are relating and so it does. Yet, which one of us are enslaved to the "hunger impulse" or inner "emotion" that we eat only when the impulse arises ? the answer is that we , by and large, manage that impulse and this is accomplished through "reason" or the realm of thoughts.

And so, instead of eating hither and thither we plan our meals and eat, as per example, at 7 AM, 12 noon, 6 PM and perhaps a snack in the evening. By planning our eating times we are no longer subservient to the cacophony of irregular eating times and in this we are strengthened.

We, literally, have "freed"ourselves from that realm which would reign over us irrationally; we have structured our very important nutritional basis for life.

Now, if you look at Hume's statement you might say that he and I are saying the same thing but in isolation I don't think so. It would be good to see his statement in context or at lest the paragraphs before and after the statement, which I'm not prepared to do. I didn't quote the matter and as I said he didn't believe in man's ability to gain knowledge and effectively placed thinking into ignorance.

As an important aside Kant, upon discovering Hume, rushed back to Konigsberg and attempted to defeat Hume but failed as his solution of our moral guide was "duty" ; even the great thinker Kant faltered to this skeptical Scotsman, dour David Hume.

The Greeks, because of their natural perceptive abilities, saw the world of ideas, reason and thought borne realm as "given", a Divine gift, so to speak . this wasn't a "theory" or "belief" to them but a "perception" much as you and I can "perceive" the hills of our nation, the rivulets of water and the color of the setting sun.

Mankind does progress and as a result we have lost this atavistic ability to which the Greek was immersed and in this gain "individuality", or the "free man", extracted from the atavistic consciousness to which the Greek was beginning to deny but a consciousness to which previous ages were born and thrived.

Man "thinks, feels and wills" and love borne thought is his eternal guide in this life and into the next.

We're like one week away from "political violence is always wrong, full stop" and they moved on to "if you try to take our guns away there will be another civil war" without blinking.

I like how they think the specter of a shootout between the AR-15 owners of America and the cops is gonna terrify is liberals. I mean, when the feds lit up that Y’all Qaeda rancher we were all like *popcorn.gif*

What kind of a threat is this? I’m all on board with watching these clowns try to fight the cops now that we’ve given neighborhood police all this crazy-ass military hardware.

Shooting white people is always going to be bad press and political kryptonite. Doesn't matter if the gun nuts start it or not. The MSM will play along and portray them sympathetically.

So unfortunately they're kinda right on that one, and they know it.

I mean, it’s never going to actually happen for a variety of reasons, don’t get me wrong. No ones going to kick in the doors of suburban MAGA chuds. They’ll get a fine or something.

Or they'll find ways to push confrontations by occupying govt offices or something. Hoping for a Ruby Ridge.

That wal-mart thing is so stupid. The advertisement they got will more than make up for the lost sales in handgun ammo. The "boycot" is stupid too, most people go to wal-mart for milk, bread and meat, and general items, not gun stuff.

Why would private sellers actually comply? Under penalty of law sure but let’s be real, a “black market” in gun sales already exists and this would drive more sellers to it IMO. Just state you are for repealing the 2nd Amendment and confiscating guns and be done with it.

Indeed. This should be axiomatic along with the importance of logic and rationality. It's not either/or.

It's not always clear what's best but it's hard to see it being helpful to put people in an entrenched emotionally defensive position if we want to engage their rationals side. However a little bit of provocation might be very useful if it's used with a view to engagement.

Why wouldn't they? It's just a background check.

I'm not a big fan of the "criminals will just get the guns" argument. Fully automatics are highly regulated and we haven't seen too many people shot with those since the NFA. Regulation seems to be working there.

As always you can't help yourself but throw in a last second of argle-bargle. Does the NFA violate the 2nd Amendment?

of course not because to do so would be to acknowledge the facts
what liberal has ever let facts stand in the way

Mass has a law been on the books going on 20 yrs
anyone. REPEAT ANYONE convicted of a crime or in possession illegally of a firearm does a mandatory sentence.
look it up

as soon as the Politian's and their friends got caught the law's enforcement went out the window.

banning law abiding citizens stops nothing

criminals are criminals because they could care less about the laws.

of course you would have to buy a strong fan to suck out the pot induced smog to see that

How about you provide a link for what the hell you're talking about instead of demanding I "look it up" and do all the work for you?

Forgive me but I've never been a big fan of the argument that we should never have laws because criminals just ignore them anyway.

And of course you completely ignored the fact that no one seems to be committing these mass murders or other crimes with submachine guns - which are highly regulated under the NFA. You really think Adam Lanza's Mom is going to buy illegal guns on the black market - or is she just going to settle for whatever legal guns she can get?

Are you even aware of the NFA? I can't get one gun nut to acknowledge it. It's like Mason with Sheldon Adelson. Maybe you should look it up - National Firearms Act. Apparently the country has decided there is a line where maybe every single 18+ person shouldn't be allowed to have military firepower in the form of fully automatic weapons. And for the most part it seems to be working.

was not much work:

This offers nothing to back up the claim that it's not being enforced. Looks like about a million exceptions on there too.

Feel free to ignore everything else about my post though.

How do you feel about the NFA? Working? Not working? Violation of the 2A?

I was just helping out.

Are you physically able to type the letters NFA?

2nd amendment authority doesn't know what the NFA is, story checks out

Jokes aside, what if anything does the bible say about private weapons ownership? Is it a "god given right"?

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