Again, falsifying business records in NYS is a crime ONLY IF DONE to further or conceal another actual crime, OTHERWISE it is just a misdemeanor.

And it is Bragg prosecuting Trump for falsifying business records in the first degree (the crime).

But in order to do so he needs other crimes. So the charges are that Trump falsified business records to hide the payment to Daniels *to interfere with the 2016 presidential elections*

And there are no federal charges linked to this: Trump has been indicted in 2 federal cases, one is the mar a lago documents one, the other is the 2020 attempt to overthrow election results. Nothing about 2016.

From Cohen's testimony today - "He clarified that it was not technically the Trump Organization or Trump’s campaign that reimbursed him for the Daniels hush money payment, but a Trump revocable trust or Trump personally." Link.

It sounds like you have nothing to worry about and the case will implode spectacularly.

Don't include me with anything Luciom.



For the record, I hope he's convicted.

I keep hearing (from Trump, so maybe this is all nonsense) that he allegedly falsified the business records by labeling the payment as a legal expense. If he wanted to do it legally, how should it have been documented?

And to not have been in violation of other law, would he just have had to file these payments with the FEC?

I think maybe? Mind you, publicly disclosing your hush money payments to the FEC kind of defeats the purpose of hush money.

He labelled it a legal expense because he gave the money to Cohen , which was the original maker of the payment.

If he wanted to do it legally he should have given the money directly to Daniels to begin with.

absolute ****ing mind-blowingly dumb to use campaign funds for hush money. i just cant grasp why anyone would do that unless you dont have the money to begin with

You should tell that to all the Hunter's laptop guys.

Personal services?

It’s amazing how many mistake trump makes with his finances…
Wasn’t he suppose to be a genius in investing and finance ?
Should we really trust him with the U.S. government finances ?

He's a genius about not paying his bills and getting away with it.

Trump is turning to GOP allies, whom he’s described as his
“surrogates,” to peddle the talking points that he can’t say publicly.

Andrew Rice saw Trump “editing” and “making notations”
to quotes his partisan allies were poised to make to reporters.

Tommy Tuberville admitted Tuesday that “one of the reasons” for his
appearance and comments was “to overcome this gag order” imposed on Trump.
"And that’s one of the reasons we went — is to be able to speak our piece for President Trump,”



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...ial-rcna152343

Trump has found a way to dodge the gag order, once again,
all but daring the judge overseeing the trial to punish him.

The gag order also bars Trump from “directing others” to throw the verbal bombs he’s
prevented from tossing, delivering the words that their higher authority cannot by himself.

“I do have a lot of surrogates, and they are speaking very beautifully,”
Trump said Tuesday when asked whether he was telling his supporters to speak out on his behalf.

Trump has a way of making his wishes known without anything so crude as a direct order.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...der-rcna152434

January 6th

« Fight like hell » at the end of his speech .

But that wasn’t met literally because I use the world peacefully 1 hour earlier lol…

He's had a lifetime of practice. It is how he has avoided incarceration for so long.

Why would a weaker dollar lead to higher prices?

Simple division math ?

Imports will cost more.

There will also be more exports so less supply in the US.

Are you saying that NY doesn't have jurisdiction over the business records he falsified? Or that he ought to be tried for election fraud by the feds first, then NY?

NYS has jurisdiction over the alleged record falsification. But it's extremely weird that Trump can be tried in the first degree, before having been found guilty of the other crime(s) that purportedly were helped by the alleged record falsification.

But apparently "intent to commit other crime(s)" with such falsification is enough for NYS. It's all very weird anyway. Same as the Carroll case, where without a court ever finding Trump guilty of rape, he cannot say that someone lied about him having raped her. Just very very very bizzarre laws.

In most countries afaik a behaviour that requires other crimes to be criminal is only prosecuted after (or togheter with) the crime has been proven in court.

Do you actually know this to be true anywhere, or is this just what you would expect?

It is in Italy, where btw (like in many countries) a set of criminal behaviors linked togheter is always tried as a single case with the worst crime being used for sentencing (if found guilty), not cumulative unlike in the USA.

What are you babbling about? In the USA, ever element of every crime alleged must be proven to be convicted of each crime.

Most sentences are served concurrently, not consecutively, for non patterned behavior. Lesser included offensives, unless there are multiple offenses, can't be sentenced consecutively.

I am not "babbling".

Trump is only being tried for falsifying records (first degree), yet that requires the falsification to be to hide or help commit another crime (for which he hasn't been convicted, nor he is being tried currently).

Re cumulative sentences, in most countries it's *always* concurrent (you only serve the longest sentence), no judicial discretion about that, unlike the USA, when it's crimes linked to the same incident