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04-25-2024 , 06:55 PM

#40451

Luciom

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Yes, people have the right to restrict who enters their private places of business. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT DO THAT. I asked what THE GOVERNMENT (US) did. Stay on topic.

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The ****? The LOCAL GOVERNMENT DID THAT, how much can you lie?

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04-25-2024 , 06:55 PM

#40452

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Originally Posted by Luciom

Sure if the threat of losing 60k of tuition doesn't come as forcing to you it's 0 people.

If you are unwilling to lift a finger to contribute to public health during a pandemic, you tend to forfeit (voluntarily) your right to be in public. That's called consequences. And it STILL WASN'T THE GOVERNMENT YOU ILLITERATE POTATO.

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Otherwise it's every student of thousands of colleges who has been forced to do that (and it wasn't in the contract they signed when they paid tuition).

And every healthcare worker

Nope, still zero, BECAUSE I ASKED ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT.

AND EVERYONE OF THOSE YOU MENTIONED HAD THE OPTION TO NOT GET VACCINATED AND GET TESTED YOU ILLITERATE POTATO.

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04-25-2024 , 06:56 PM

#40453

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Originally Posted by Luciom

The ****? The LOCAL GOVERNMENT DID THAT, how much can you lie?

Is the local government the US government, potato? Do you just not understand what "US GOVERNMENT" means? Good lord.

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04-25-2024 , 06:56 PM

#40454

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Forcing a 2y old to wear a mask for 6 to 8 hours is torture.

Which is why not even fascist Spain, Italy and France did mandate masks ever under 6

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04-25-2024 , 06:56 PM

#40455

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey

There was always be people who demonize people of every races, sex, religion, immigration status, political affiliation, etc. unfortunately, but do you think more people on the right do this than people on the left?

It seems fairly rare that someone from the right demonizes someone on the left and is fairly common that people on the left demonize those on the right?

Unless you really dig I don't see much trans demonization from either party unless you are including some of the right wanting sports to be fair which seems like an odd inclusion to this.

I don't think a reasonable person would call me an anti-vaxxer, but I do think his argument holds water - that what the govt attempted (to varying levels of success) to do during covid is insanely scary. Also, the fact that with the government is still operating on a inflated covid budget is the stuff of nightmares - it is massive govt overreach.

I mean seriously , just take the example of books and how the right try to demonized and ban so Many books compare to the left .

Now just extrapolate to humans and it’s easy to see how as usual u are so wrong in your perception.
Yes sky is blue not red !

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04-25-2024 , 06:57 PM

#40456

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The topic is who between the left and the right demonizes others more, not only inside of the USA. An absurd claim by freak daddy went like "I am scared because the right demonizes others and that's how you get fascism".

I countered that with the fact that it is literally the opposite and covid proves that beyond reasonable doubts, in the west.

Can you not troll at least once in your life?

This is an irrelevant topic which only you want to talk about.

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04-25-2024 , 06:58 PM

#40457

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Forcing a 2y old to wear a mask for 6 to 8 hours is torture.

Thank you for confirming again that you are absolutely incapable of being even slightly rational. This is among the most god awfully stupid things I've ever read.

I mean it's difficult to sound even dumber than Brian James, but my god are you capable of it.

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04-25-2024 , 06:59 PM

#40458

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Yah. Now do diapers

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04-25-2024 , 06:59 PM

#40459

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Precisely zero people. The closest was the military, which did have a mandate with no option to opt out and test instead (though medical and religious exemptions were available). However, no one forced them to get vaccinated. Some chose to simply leave the military and not get vaccinated. This is completely in-line with the military's vaccination policies prior to covid and should have not only not been a shock, but completely expected.

Correct. Even though, AFAIK, no 'serious' religion has anything against vaccinations. So ridiculous that there are any religious exemptions for anything at all.

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04-25-2024 , 06:59 PM

#40460

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Nope, still zero, BECAUSE I ASKED ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT.

AND EVERYONE OF THOSE YOU MENTIONED HAD THE OPTION TO NOT GET VACCINATED AND GET TESTED YOU ILLITERATE POTATO.

Jfc if the college is public IT'S THE GOVERNMENT zomg.

And the CMS government mandate didn't have a testing exception. That covered 10m workers

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04-25-2024 , 07:00 PM

#40461

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Some places in the USA banned unvaxxed 7y old to go and have an ice cream , and mandated masks to 2y old toddlers, abuse of minors and torture of minors is pretty scary.

Especially when predicated on fake, debunked pseudoscience, but it would be scary anyway even if the scientifical excuse was correct (which it wasn't).

So who forced them to go to the ice cream parlor?

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04-25-2024 , 07:01 PM

#40462

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04-25-2024 , 07:04 PM

#40463

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Originally Posted by Luciom

Jfc if the college is public IT'S THE GOVERNMENT zomg.

And the CMS government mandate didn't have a testing exception. That covered 10m workers

Good lord, no a college is not THE US GOVERNMENT you ABSOLUTE LOON.

And obviously health care professionals are required to be vaccinated. No one is forcing anyone to work in health care, and you absolutely SHOULD NOT BE IN HEALTH CARE IF YOU WON'T GET VACCINATED.

Good lord. This is the dumbest argument I've ever even imagined having.

I'm done talking to this f***** idiot. And yes, if saying that is against the rules now, ban me. Couldn't give less of a s.

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04-25-2024 , 07:09 PM

#40464

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Forcing a 2y old to wear a mask for 6 to 8 hours is torture.

Which is why not even fascist Spain, Italy and France did mandate masks ever under 6

The thing you just quoted says 5 or older.

It shouldn't have been an exception though, little kids have the most germs.

Who forced the kids to go somewhere masks were required? I have to assume it was their parents.

I don't even think kids under 5 should be allowed in restaurants to begin with.

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04-25-2024 , 07:11 PM

#40465

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And yes it is scary (and fascist) not to have vaccine mandates, but to have monstrous punishment linked to vaccine mandates.

Punishment was completely disproportionate, that's what fascists do

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04-25-2024 , 07:12 PM

#40466

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Originally Posted by chillrob

The thing you just quoted says 5 or older.

For the vaccine mandate to eat the ice cream yes.

The toddler masks in pre k12 is another , separate thing

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04-25-2024 , 07:12 PM

#40467

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Originally Posted by chillrob

The thing you just quoted says 5 or older.

Weird how it also says nothing about 6 to 8 hours.

And I find it HILARIOUS that this buffoon thinks it's torture. What a pansy.

Permanent ignore list for him. I don't have the patience for that type of stupidity. I've mentioned I think he's mentally ill before, and I actually stand by it. I don't think it's ever been more clear.

Not even Brian James has driven my to put him on my ignore list.

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04-25-2024 , 07:13 PM

#40468

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There was a mandate for the 2y old in daycare till mid 2022 in NYC.

Torture

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04-25-2024 , 07:13 PM

#40469

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Jfc if the college is public IT'S THE GOVERNMENT zomg.

And the CMS government mandate didn't have a testing exception. That covered 10m workers

Anti-vaxxers should not be allowed to work for the government in anything having to do with science or medicine. They're obviously unqualified for the job.

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04-25-2024 , 07:15 PM

#40470

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For the vaccine mandate to eat the ice cream yes.

The toddler masks in pre k12 is another , separate thing

OK, where were the toddlers required to wear the mask, and who required them to go there?

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04-25-2024 , 07:15 PM

#40471

Luciom

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Weird how it also says nothing about 6 to 8 hours.

And I find it HILARIOUS that this buffoon thinks it's torture. What a pansy.

Jfc one of the most disgusting human being I ever interacted with.

There were TWO DIFFERENT ABUSES, vaccine mandates to the 5+ (on penalty of not being able to access anything indoor), AND mask mandates in daycare starting at 2, in some places.

You stay 6-8 hours in daycare.

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04-25-2024 , 07:16 PM

#40472

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OK, where were the toddlers required to wear the mask, and who required them to go there?

Daycare, the fact that their parents work required them to go there.

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04-25-2024 , 07:20 PM

#40473

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Originally Posted by chillrob

Anti-vaxxers should not be allowed to work for the government in anything having to do with science or medicine. They're obviously unqualified for the job.

Remember the topic was that no one was forced, now you both moved to "well ok a **** ton of people were actually forced by gvmnt to vaccinate, and it was right to force them".

If instead your claim is that threat of losing your job (or 60k of tuition you paid when that mandate was NOT present) if you don't do x isn't "forcing" then lol

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04-25-2024 , 07:20 PM

#40474

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Originally Posted by Luciom

The us government is federal government and all agencies and congress + state + local.

If a college is a STATE COLLEGE and it mandates vaccination that's the state of (say) California mandating it, that's THE GOVERNMENT mandating it to those students.

People in healthcare don't all take the flu shot, so no it's not like you have to be willing to take all vaccines that exist to be able to work in healthcare.

Now you are changing topic after you ****ing lied, saying there was a testing exception.

So, repeat with me "I, gorgon, lied, and in fact the US government forced COVID vaccinations on healthcare workers and a lot of college students, even if I previously denied it admitting it happened only to the militaries"

How about you say, I Luciom understand that taking away privileges is not the same as forcing.

Also, I believe most health care workers in the US do have to get the flu vaccine. I did when I was employed by a health care company, even though I was not someone who treated patients.

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04-25-2024 , 07:22 PM

#40475

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I certainly didn't change anything. Of course that of losing your job or schooling is not the same as forcing. A lot of things are required for lots of jobs, and lots of vaccinations are required for most schools.

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