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04-01-2024 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
They have 3400. Seems like it would have been a good start. With the assistance of the Capitol police I'm sure it would have been enough.

But did Trump really think 3400 troops were worse than zero?
1350 soldiers actually. The rest are airmen.
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04-01-2024 , 11:31 PM
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04-01-2024 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Commit the crime, take the video evidence and then post it on your social media page. These clowns make BJ look like, dare I say, John Nash.
I never said they were geniuses. Quite the opposite in fact, which I have stated on numerous occasions.
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04-01-2024 , 11:44 PM
No one cares. That's incidental to the topic - your Mickey Mouse belief that Trump wanted to preempt something they'd premeditated in detail.
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04-02-2024 , 12:40 AM
Peace offering

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04-02-2024 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm
Peace offering
Thanks dude. All good.
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04-02-2024 , 03:32 AM
Trump posts bond for the civil fraud case in NYS

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-p...rk-fraud-case/
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04-02-2024 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Trump posts bond for the civil fraud case in NYS

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-p...rk-fraud-case/
Shame. Would have been fun to watch his **** getting repo'ed.
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04-02-2024 , 04:26 AM
Why would a bond company be willing to put up this much but not the 450 million or whatever they asked for at first?
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04-02-2024 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Why would a bond company be willing to put up this much but not the 450 million or whatever they asked for at first?
because he might have been able to produce enough high quality (highly liquid ) collateral for this bond size and not for the previous bigger one.

keep in mind they wouldn't accept real estate usually, and anyway most Trump real estate assets have a mortgage on them so they won't be accepted as collateral because of that anyway, normally.

you can have several property worth (say) 100 each, with 20-40 of mortgage on each, so plenty of net worth, but all of that wouldn't work for bond collateral
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04-02-2024 , 05:35 AM
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04-02-2024 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian James
Shutup moron.
No more of this.
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04-02-2024 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian James
I never said they were geniuses. Quite the opposite in fact, which I have stated on numerous occasions.
And no one thinks that POTUS was a genius for using this cast of misfits along with the my pillow guy and mayor Rudy to accomplish his political agenda. Yet here we are.
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04-02-2024 , 08:45 AM
Speaking of possible conflicts of interest, the judge of the classified document case, Aileen Cannon, has been nominated by Trump (????) to that seat, it's truly incredible to think that American rules allow her to judge Trump himself.
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04-02-2024 , 10:18 AM
Judge Merchan expands Trump's N.Y. gag order

He has violated every single gag order and no one has done anything about it.
When is a judge going to get some balls and put him in pre trial detention?

An innocent man does not:
1-threaten the court and its officers
2-threaten the prosecution
3-threaten witnesses and jurors
4-threaten innocent people
5-delay proceedings
6-file frivolous lawsuits
7-spend gazillions of dollars in lawyers
8-try to discredit the court
9-play the victim and cry witch hunt
10-incite violence

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04-02-2024 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I can’t understand the literal audacity of saying setting a fire in front of a Walgreens or something (still not good) is the same as literally storming Congress for the expressed purpose of keeping your God King in power by way of subversion of the electoral process and the undermining of tens of millions of votes through intimidation, violence, and if necessary *checks notes* executing the sitting vice president of the United States. These imbeciles literally charged Congress to overthrow democracy. They are the actual definition of traitors. A few years in prison is definitely way better than how treason used to be punished (spoiler alert: that piece of **** woman who got shot in the head wouldn’t have been the last one to die in the name of Mein Heffer)

I’ve never thought much of blahblah but my man, you are just an absolutely god awful human being
I never said setting one fire outside of Walgreens is just as bad as breaking into the capital. I completely understand why you think I’m a bad person - your reading comprehension is so poor that you have trouble keeping up with what is actually said.

However, I did say that setting fire to a bunch of buildings/stores, government buildings, cars, other personal property along with killing a bunch of people and hurting a lot more is worse than breaking into the capital to say you don’t think the election was not fair.

I know this may blow your mind, but if 1,000 people whose only goal is to overthrow the most powerful country in the history of the world they would have the same odds of succeeding if they broke into the US capital or a random Walgreens in a random city.
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04-02-2024 , 12:37 PM
how close was the fire to the walgreens?
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04-02-2024 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I know this may blow your mind, but if 1,000 people whose only goal is to overthrow the most powerful country in the history of the world they would have the same odds of succeeding if they broke into the US capital or a random Walgreens in a random city.
I understand the point you're trying to make but this is a really dumb way to try to make it and flat out wrong

just say they were incompetent and unorganized nincompoops and the majority were just along for the ride - don't act like we should just accept people storming the capitol as a benign event - that's insane
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04-02-2024 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
I understand the point you're trying to make but this is a really dumb way to try to make it and flat out wrong

just say they were incompetent and unorganized nincompoops and the majority were just along for the ride - don't act like we should just accept people storming the capitol as a benign event - that's insane
People attempting to storm the Capitol is a bad event but the actual storming is very simple to avoid (at least in this case), just start shooting.

How many police with full auto guns do you need to have them stop? 5? 10 max?

Do you think vegan qanon shamans , or keyboard lions 40 pounds overweight wouldn't retreat after 50 comrades are killed in front of them?

The event should have been a 3 minute bloodbath followed by a lot of arrests ("drop on the ground now, if you move you are dead" kind of scenario) the instant the crowd moved violently to enter a SACRED PLACE for the country like the building that hosts congress ffs.

Instead police in some cases escorted them inside the building (??????).

According to official proceedings in the following months, at least 140 officers were assaulted.

How can that not translate in at least 140 people shot dead right there on the spot, or at the very least officers trying to achieve that while the perpetrators flee or something?

And we are talking about america where police rules of engagement are even smoother than in most other countries, but basically everywhere in the west if you violently assault a police officer you get shot by him or a colleague (unless you are so weak of a threat they can neutralize you quickly otherwise, not the case of Jan 6 riots).

The lack of any reasonable police reactions to the events is far more sinister than the events themselves, because political riots are to be expected in a very polarized society with a cult of violence like American society, while the last thing you would expect is for police to not use lethal force against a crowd attempting actual insurrection with members of Congress lives at risk.
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04-02-2024 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
People attempting to storm the Capitol is a bad event but the actual storming is very simple to avoid (at least in this case), just start shooting.

How many police with full auto guns do you need to have them stop? 5? 10 max?

Do you think vegan qanon shamans , or keyboard lions 40 pounds overweight wouldn't retreat after 50 comrades are killed in front of them?

The event should have been a 3 minute bloodbath followed by a lot of arrests ("drop on the ground now, if you move you are dead" kind of scenario) the instant the crowd moved violently to enter a SACRED PLACE for the country like the building that hosts congress ffs.

Instead police in some cases escorted them inside the building (??????).

According to official proceedings in the following months, at least 140 officers were assaulted.

How can that not translate in at least 140 people shot dead right there on the spot, or at the very least officers trying to achieve that while the perpetrators flee or something?

And we are talking about america where police rules of engagement are even smoother than in most other countries, but basically everywhere in the west if you violently assault a police officer you get shot by him or a colleague (unless you are so weak of a threat they can neutralize you quickly otherwise, not the case of Jan 6 riots).

The lack of any reasonable police reactions to the events is far more sinister than the events themselves, because political riots are to be expected in a very polarized society with a cult of violence like American society, while the last thing you would expect is for police to not use lethal force against a crowd attempting actual insurrection with members of Congress lives at risk.
What is worse the Jan 6th committee did not want republicans on the committee that would ask the tough questions and why they did not include were the breakdown on security was or why there wasn't added security

It was a sad day for America but one of the worst organized insurrections I have seen
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04-02-2024 , 12:58 PM
luciom, so if i rob a bank with a note and and instead of the armed guards shooting me the manager instead discreetly fills up a bag of cash and hands it over to me is it not a crime because the onus is one the bank to have shot me?

honestly man, what you just wrote doesn't even make sense in your own reality
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04-02-2024 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
luciom, so if i rob a bank with a note and and instead of the armed guards shooting me the manager instead discreetly fills up a bag of cash and hands it over to me is it not a crime because the onus is one the bank to have shot me?

honestly man, what you just wrote doesn't even make sense in your own reality
? It is a crime but we have to arrest the manager as well and the manager actions are actually worse than the robber actions exactly.

Because you do fully expect some people who want to rob (and you have to deal harshly with him) but it's even worse when people you pay exclusively to protect you against enemies actually don't protect you against enemies.

And btw there were clashes, it's not like police did nothing. It's they acted as if it was a "tad violent protest" in the middle of nowhere, not an assault to a crucial federal building with crucial people inside, where you have to shoot to kill asap , even 0.1% risk of the rioters reaching congressmen is far worse than killing all the rioters on the spot
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04-02-2024 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
What is worse the Jan 6th committee did not want republicans on the committee that would ask the tough questions and why they did not include were the breakdown on security was or why there wasn't added security

It was a sad day for America but one of the worst organized insurrections I have seen
The Occam razor reason for the lack of proper response by police is radical leftists actually believe at least in part the bullshit about police violence so they didn't order to shoot to kill, + Washington DC police might be trained and managed horribly like everything else public in that city.

But the insurrection happening should have been a day of reckoning for all those problems, a day to wash away anti-police discourse, and to start fixing the disaster that is Washington DC in general.

Instead they made it look like a serious insurrection attempts was planned for months, because if it had been clearer it was a bunch of unorganized crazies on the far right , and so no insurrection could have happened with just normal law enforcement, they would have looked really really bad.
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04-02-2024 , 01:11 PM
omg... bro

that's the final straw, i used to enjoy your schtick but it's clear you've departed reality where the bank manager now needs to be arrested
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04-02-2024 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
omg... bro

that's the final straw, i used to enjoy your schtick but it's clear you've departed reality where the bank manager now needs to be arrested
If he has security training, his job is securing the bank against robbery, and he helps the robber lol yes
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