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08-04-2023 , 10:15 AM
I haven't been as emotionally invested in a political event in the last 20 years as I am in wishing Trump ends up in prison so this whole thing just goes away. It wasn't a very high bar to overcome, but even a little bit is more than nothing.

Jesus Christ please make this stop so we can go back to serious political discussions; like tan suits and cookie commercials and cancelling all my remaining student loans.
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08-04-2023 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcherOfLoaf
I believe Trump and his tards are significantly worse for the country than a kidney stone is for a person.

If I thought he was merely a kidney stone and a recovery is very likely, I’d be 100% with you: bleed the derps dry. But I believe things are more dire. Once Trump is gone, that danger subsides significantly. Yes, the derps will still exist, but Trump coalesced them. Without him they will scatter like cockroaches and crawl back under the filth they came from.
The life expectancy of a male his age is 8-9 years, and safe to say he aint the healthiest version of that age group that exists. Also, he may not win the nomination and if that happens he will do his riggie thing to his derps and that will force the Republicans to "move on" from him. If he gets the nomination he will lose the general election (thanks to likely the derpiest campaign ever), claim it is rigged again, but in doing so even more "normal" Republicans will know that it is finally time to move on from the derp show already, and they will also know it will be trivially easy for them to win the White House in 2028 if they do just that (and likely crush in the 2026 mid terms).

Yeah, this is not a choice between savory options, but again it is reality, so my belief is accept the reality instead of emotionally pretending things will happen (like a derp uprising against Trump). Maybe after Trump croaks some of his hard core derps will have an epiphany as they look at their collection of worthless, trashy Trump flare they accumulated, at great expense to themselves over the years. As time passes more and more people who likely supported him will say it is time to move on. The post above this will be more common from past Trumpderps as more and more losing happens along with the tiring narrative the derposphere creates. Patience is your ally, as frustrating as that can be at times.

Last edited by Monteroy; 08-04-2023 at 10:23 AM.
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08-04-2023 , 10:27 AM
January 2022,
“I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protests we have ever had.”

In March 2023,
“PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!” In case that was too subtle,
Trump added a few hours later, “IT’S TIME!!! ... WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE.
... WE MUST SAVE AMERICA! PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”

suggesting that if he were indicted in New York, it might cause
“potential death [and] destruction” that “could be catastrophic for our Country.”

Trump wrote, “SEE YOU IN MIAMI ON TUESDAY!!!” on his social media platform — but the numbers were again small.
Local law enforcement was prepared for crowds of up to 50,000 people. The actual crowd was closer to 500.

We were reminded yesterday that those hopes have since been dashed.

For all the online outrage, only a handful of Trump supporters turned out to protest the latest charges

For a man who cares more about crowd sizes than any human being,
this must’ve been disappointing, especially after his “IT’S TIME!!! ... PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!” message.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...alse-rcna98120
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08-04-2023 , 10:41 AM
Does anyone think this is a game of chicken? Trump has been arrested 3 times. Biden would be 85 at the end of a 2nd term.

Trump pulls out, Biden to follow…?

-RS
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08-04-2023 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
Does anyone think this is a game of chicken? Trump has been arrested 3 times. Biden would be 85 at the end of a 2nd term.

Trump pulls out, Biden to follow…?

-RS
Last week I thought neither are running . This week

I cant see Trump withdrawing as winning is his way to a pardon . Sadly I doubt Joe does either.

The debates will be must see TV
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08-04-2023 , 11:01 AM
“Republicans, our democracy depends on your willingness to read the Trump indictment,”

Even if you are among those who say yes, he committed serious crimes
and you’ll happily vote for him anyway, you still owe it to your country
to acquaint yourself with what crimes it is that you’re willing to overlook...
If you don’t trust us to characterize what it says, read it for yourself.

much of Republican Party is simply indifferent to whether Trump committed crimes or not

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/e...277872038.html

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08-04-2023 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
“Republicans, our democracy depends on your willingness to read the Trump indictment,”

Even if you are among those who say yes, he committed serious crimes
and you’ll happily vote for him anyway, you still owe it to your country
to acquaint yourself with what crimes it is that you’re willing to overlook...
If you don’t trust us to characterize what it says, read it for yourself.

much of Republican Party is simply indifferent to whether Trump committed crimes or not

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/e...277872038.html

Why they do not care just as no ones reading the Archer Testimony .

What they do care about was Groceries were cheaper under Trump, Mortgages were cheaper under Trump, Rent was cheaper under Trump, Their $ went farther under Trump, The border was somewhat more secure under Trump, Inflation was lower under Trump, Gas was Lower under Trump.

That is exactly what the felon will run on

Like you Steamraise that only has one channel MSNBC many Republicans only watch Fox for their news . Weather its MSNBC or Fox repeating a lie over and over after a while they viewers believe it
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08-04-2023 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Why they do not care just as no ones reading the Archer Testimony .

What they do care about was Groceries were cheaper under Trump, Mortgages were cheaper under Trump, Rent was cheaper under Trump, Their $ went farther under Trump, The border was somewhat more secure under Trump, Inflation was lower under Trump, Gas was Lower under Trump.

That is exactly what the felon will run on
They don’t care about any of that stuff more than they like the fact that Trump is a bigoted *******. If they did, they’d nominate a different GOPer. But none of the other GOP candidates tickle the ******* bone if these people. The absolute doucheness of Trump is not a bug they tolerate, but rather a feature that they demand.
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08-04-2023 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Why they do not care just as no ones reading the Archer Testimony .

What they do care about was Groceries were cheaper under Trump, Mortgages were cheaper under Trump, Rent was cheaper under Trump, Their $ went farther under Trump, The border was somewhat more secure under Trump, Inflation was lower under Trump, Gas was Lower under Trump.

That is exactly what the felon will run on

Like you Steamraise that only has one channel MSNBC many Republicans only watch Fox for their news . Weather its MSNBC or Fox repeating a lie over and over after a while they viewers believe it
And they had weaker wages too by a big margin under trump ?
https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker
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08-04-2023 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
The life expectancy of a male his age is 8-9 years, and safe to say he aint the healthiest version of that age group that exists. Also, he may not win the nomination and if that happens he will do his riggie thing to his derps and that will force the Republicans to "move on" from him. If he gets the nomination he will lose the general election (thanks to likely the derpiest campaign ever), claim it is rigged again, but in doing so even more "normal" Republicans will know that it is finally time to move on from the derp show already, and they will also know it will be trivially easy for them to win the White House in 2028 if they do just that (and likely crush in the 2026 mid terms).

Yeah, this is not a choice between savory options, but again it is reality, so my belief is accept the reality instead of emotionally pretending things will happen (like a derp uprising against Trump). Maybe after Trump croaks some of his hard core derps will have an epiphany as they look at their collection of worthless, trashy Trump flare they accumulated, at great expense to themselves over the years. As time passes more and more people who likely supported him will say it is time to move on. The post above this will be more common from past Trumpderps as more and more losing happens along with the tiring narrative the derposphere creates. Patience is your ally, as frustrating as that can be at times.
I don't think that is likely and I'm not sitting around rooting for it, but it absolutely is a possibility given the fact of the matter is that Trump HAS bullshitted his supporters. He has lied, repeatedly, to their faces about many things. These people were angry and looking for someone/something to lash out at pre-Trump, and Trump used that as a big club to batter our politics. Some of these derps, however unlikely, may figure out how to put 2 and 2 together, and that energy could very well be turned against Trump. It wouldn't take many to get him, just a few skilled individuals dedicated to the cause.

I hope he drops dead due to the fact that he's horribly unhealthy. That is the best case scenario for the country. All other options are bad.
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08-04-2023 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
Does anyone think this is a game of chicken? Trump has been arrested 3 times. Biden would be 85 at the end of a 2nd term.

Trump pulls out, Biden to follow…?

-RS
Biden is not giving up power until he's gotta be done. Old people hang out to power just like young people.
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08-04-2023 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherOfLoaf
I don't think that is likely and I'm not sitting around rooting for it, but it absolutely is a possibility given the fact of the matter is that Trump HAS bullshitted his supporters. He has lied, repeatedly, to their faces about many things. These people were angry and looking for someone/something to lash out at pre-Trump, and Trump used that as a big club to batter our politics. Some of these derps, however unlikely, may figure out how to put 2 and 2 together, and that energy could very well be turned against Trump. It wouldn't take many to get him, just a few skilled individuals dedicated to the cause.

I hope he drops dead due to the fact that he's horribly unhealthy. That is the best case scenario for the country. All other options are bad.
That is disgusting that you hope someone drops dead . I despise my PM as much as you dislike Trump but Id never hope he dropped dead . Even our PM's recent separation I wouldn't wish on anyone. I may speculate why.....
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08-04-2023 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
That is disgusting that you hope someone drops dead .
I don't care. It is the lesser of the evils. I felt the same way about bin Laden.

And I'm not a proponent of capital punishment.
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08-04-2023 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed
Biden is not giving up power until he's gotta be done. Old people hang out to power just like young people.
Feinstein in California is a great example of this.

It's not like if she's gone the GOP will take the seat. It's California. Doesn't matter much who runs, as long as they're a Democrat. No way she should still be in the her seat.
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08-04-2023 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
“Republicans, our democracy depends on your willingness to read the Trump indictment,”

Even if you are among those who say yes, he committed serious crimes
and youÂ’ll happily vote for him anyway, you still owe it to your country
to acquaint yourself with what crimes it is that youÂ’re willing to overlook...
If you donÂ’t trust us to characterize what it says, read it for yourself.

much of Republican Party is simply indifferent to whether Trump committed crimes or not
There is a book about the phenomenon you are describing where repubs aren't reacting as much as you would think they should to this kind of news called "the boy who cried wolf". It is worth the read.

In the last 8ish years dems has been threatened to be impeached, had phony trials of him on prime time TV or actually impeached him for what feels like dozens of times... And yes some of the stuff trump is accused of doing he actually did, but even more of it was just nonsense.

I understand you thinking "everyone should read what bad thing trump is accused of doing this time it will only take a few minutes to read". The problem with this is that we have spent like 80 hours watching a phony trial about trump from the jan 6th committee and a bunch of other time watching and reading other stuff he's accused of. We have invested more time researching this supposed mis-deeds than we have for all other politicians ever and we are just out of time and energy to buy into any more of this. We know trump isn't saint, but we think it is about time to start investing senators who are trading stocks and biden for all the stuff he's been accused of.
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08-04-2023 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The problem with this is that we have spent like 80 hours watching a phony trial about trump from the jan 6th committee
Huh? That Committee laid out exactly what this monster did, and now he's been charged with serious crimes against the United States as a result. The fact that you want to just blow it off is on you and your laziness. No one else. You. Trump is banking on this kind of fatigue to help him. Don't be his bitch.
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08-04-2023 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed
Biden is not giving up power until he's gotta be done. Old people hang out to power just like young people.
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08-04-2023 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
In the last 8ish years dems has been threatened to be impeached
He was impeached. Twice. He was not convicted, because the Senate is full of spineless cowards like RonJohnson and LindsayGraham. Absolutely soulless jackals. Trump was guilty as ****, but jury nullification in the Senate saved his ass.
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08-04-2023 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
There is a book about the phenomenon you are describing where repubs aren't reacting as much as you would think they should to this kind of news called "the boy who cried wolf". It is worth the read.

In the last 8ish years dems has been threatened to be impeached, had phony trials of him on prime time TV or actually impeached him for what feels like dozens of times... And yes some of the stuff trump is accused of doing he actually did, but even more of it was just nonsense.

I understand you thinking "everyone should read what bad thing trump is accused of doing this time it will only take a few minutes to read". The problem with this is that we have spent like 80 hours watching a phony trial about trump from the jan 6th committee and a bunch of other time watching and reading other stuff he's accused of. We have invested more time researching this supposed mis-deeds than we have for all other politicians ever and we are just out of time and energy to buy into any more of this. We know trump isn't saint, but we think it is about time to start investing senators who are trading stocks and biden for all the stuff he's been accused of.
why u leave out kuchner while mentioning biden ?
u only want to go after small potatoes and not the big ones ?

https://www.businessinsider.com/kush...c-rules-2023-2

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The New York Times reported in April 2022 that Kushner — who worked on Middle East policy under former President Donald Trump — was able to secure over $2 billion in funds for his company Affinity Partners.
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In 2018, MBS reportedly bragged that Kushner was "in his pocket."
and u come here complain about some kind of double standard ?lol ?
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08-04-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I despise my PM as much as you dislike Trump
No, you don't. Not. Even. Close.
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08-04-2023 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
even more of it was just nonsense.
None of it was nonsense.
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08-04-2023 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherOfLoaf
Feinstein in California is a great example of this.

It's not like if she's gone the GOP will take the seat. It's California. Doesn't matter much who runs, as long as they're a Democrat. No way she should still be in the her seat.
People are worried Republicans will keep her seat empty on the judicial committee. So there is value in her staying
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08-04-2023 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
why u leave out kuchner while mentioning biden ?
u only want to go after small potatoes and not the big ones ?

https://www.businessinsider.com/kush...c-rules-2023-2





and u come here complain about some kind of double standard ?lol ?
Yup and Biden was gonna make MBS pay all he did was show up and offer to suck his dxxk for Oil
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08-04-2023 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherOfLoaf
Huh? That Committee laid out exactly what this monster did, and now he's been charged with serious crimes against the United States as a result. The fact that you want to just blow it off is on you and your laziness. No one else. You. Trump is banking on this kind of fatigue to help him. Don't be his bitch.
Did you watch all 80 hours of the last 3 seasons of the bachelor or are you lazy? Are did you become a bachelor bitch?

Kidding, but I hope you can understand the point that just because someone doesn't want to dedicate hours and hours on something doesn't mean they aren't lazy. For instance I don't think it is fair to say you are lazy for not learning how to fluently speak French, become a professional cornhole tourney player or master hop-scotch.

I get your all's frustration. The current and last president threatened to withhold money to ukraine, both of them made millions from foreign entitles (sure trump runs a legit biz, but we can't 100% know for sure all the money he made wasn't selling access to the White house like biden has) and trump and a majority of dems have attempted to de-legitimize an election in the last 10 years.
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08-04-2023 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherOfLoaf
No, you don't. Not. Even. Close.
Well If You want Trump dead than I would have to concur .

That offers the perplexing question is it OK to wish a leader dead as you know it will lead to a better country ?

Id trade you Trudeau for Trump as a leader
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