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12-10-2020 , 01:40 PM
Uh, the AG is supposed to operate independently of the Presidency. Republicans manufactured a scandal out of Loretta Lynch interfering with the Clinton email investigation in a partisan manner.
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12-10-2020 , 01:44 PM
Agreed on 'supposed to', in a theoretical way.
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12-10-2020 , 02:29 PM
I’m so ****ing sick of this tired ass idea that we need to take into consideration what the cultists have to say and reach out to them and find middle ground

These are idiots who if you said 1+1 = 2 they’d respond with ‘fake news, sheep’ and then have politicians pander to them by saying the liberal media doesn’t get to decide that one plus one equals two

This is a mentality that needs to be scourged from existence, not validated
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12-10-2020 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
I’m kinda surprised there are so many Biden supporters on two plus two ... I glanced over some posts I’m seeing a lot of “ prosecution of trump” posts . What exactly are they going to prosecute against . I also like how these post always glaze over all the proven and sworn affidavits of voter fraud ( like it’s not his duty as an American president to go after this) as if joe Biden is even president elect yet ( he is factually not) . Trump should do everything in his power to over turn an election called by the media and only won in swing states with absolute constitutional violations state and federal.
So hard to figure out why every reasonably-modded politics forum turns into a "liberal echo chamber" - when this is the state of modern right-wing thought. np123234 is their intellectual godfather.
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12-10-2020 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I’m so ****ing sick of this tired ass idea that we need to take into consideration what the cultists have to say and reach out to them and find middle ground

These are idiots who if you said 1+1 = 2 they’d respond with ‘fake news, sheep’ and then have politicians pander to them by saying the liberal media doesn’t get to decide that one plus one equals two

This is a mentality that needs to be scourged from existence, not validated
Being tired of something doesn't make it go away. Republicans have a lot of political power and will for the foreseeable future. Democrats don't get to decide on their own what issues are important or what mentalities are acceptable.
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12-10-2020 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
I cannot believe one orange tin-foil hat wearing lunatic is successfully selling his conspiracy theory (and make no mistake, there is only one source for all this - him and him alone, no evidence otherwise) to so many people.
Their ignorance and penchant for believing complete nonsense is willful. They'd rather believe false information than deal with the pain of accepting that they've been duped repeatedly.
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12-10-2020 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Their ignorance and penchant for believing complete nonsense is willful. They'd rather believe false information than deal with the pain of accepting that they've been duped repeatedly.
I think it’s more they support any candidate who lets them live in a world where they can believe whatever they want as fact even if there’s zero fact behind it and allow them to exist in a state of impotent rage
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12-10-2020 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I, for one, was pretty sure that he was installed to do Trump's bidding, not to be some independent agent of justice. His work to squash the Iran-Contra investigation was a foreshadowing of his role in the Trump admin: squashing the Mueller investigation.
Well of course that was always Trump's intent, but it was his intent with Sessions also, and Sessions enraged him by showing some level of deferral to the law.

Barr being something worse wasn't a complete shock - if it began and ended at working at cross purposes with the Mueller investigation, that would not have surprised me at all. His willingness to so brazenly cross so many other barriers has been what I basically wouldn't have expected for any AG who has actually been in public service for a long time.
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12-10-2020 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
Being tired of something doesn't make it go away. Republicans have a lot of political power and will for the foreseeable future. Democrats don't get to decide on their own what issues are important or what mentalities are acceptable.
Democrats don’t get to decide at all

This is a perpetual game of Cold War prisoners dilemma where R chooses nuke and D chooses not to nuke. McConnell will stonewall 4 years of Biden’s agenda and I have zero doubt that if the runoffs look like they’re going to favor the Dems then magically the filibuster rule will shoot back up
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12-10-2020 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
I’m so ****ing sick of this tired ass idea that we need to take into consideration what the cultists have to say and reach out to them and find middle ground

These are idiots who if you said 1+1 = 2 they’d respond with ‘fake news, sheep’ and then have politicians pander to them by saying the liberal media doesn’t get to decide that one plus one equals two

This is a mentality that needs to be scourged from existence, not validated
Ummm I think someone here needs a refresher in ...

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12-10-2020 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Their ignorance and penchant for believing complete nonsense is willful. They'd rather believe false information than deal with the pain of accepting that they've been duped repeatedly.
Agreed accept i question if they really believe it or just 'want' to almost like in a Sports team super fan zeal in this thread I created.

I argue most don't really believe it.
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12-10-2020 , 06:15 PM
"...Trump won 15 of 17 Florida counties that used Dominion equipment, ..."

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12-10-2020 , 06:26 PM
If I was in the WH press corps, I'd ask this orange idiot about his golf game each day. How did you do on the par 3's, Don? How was your putting today, Don? Is your swing in good shape? Hitting it straight?

The flippin' moron. Mock the fool and see if he even figures it out.
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12-10-2020 , 06:27 PM


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12-10-2020 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
I’m kinda surprised there are so many Biden supporters on two plus two ... I glanced over some posts I’m seeing a lot of “ prosecution of trump” posts . What exactly are they going to prosecute against . I also like how these post always glaze over all the proven and sworn affidavits of voter fraud ( like it’s not his duty as an American president to go after this) as if joe Biden is even president elect yet ( he is factually not) . Trump should do everything in his power to over turn an election called by the media and only won in swing states with absolute constitutional violations state and federal.
Affidavits mean nothing if they arent introduced in a court of law... and oh yeah, you can revoke them at any time, like, ya know, if they are about to be presented in a court of law under penalty of perjury
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12-10-2020 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
Also Sidney the Kraken got called out for making up a quote out of whole cloth in one of her filings.
She needs to be disbarred immediately. How do these people keep getting away with this ****?
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12-10-2020 , 06:45 PM
@Rococo might correct my answer but I believe the various State Bars are not proactive organizations looking for violations of the Code of Ethics and instead are reactionary ones that will judge when they receive a report.

And as I repeat like a drum in many threads the Dems are just terrible at holding others to account.

The Dems cling to a prior Norm or understanding that is bad for all of us if we start putting each other in jail or getting each other disbarred for offenses. Thus why the main punishment is 'getting voted out' but not really punished otherwise. 'If we put one of your guys in jail, will you come after one of ours? Well that is no good for any of us as we all know if you dig deep enough many politicians have dirt'.

Sadly for the Dems the Republicans stopped playing by those rules even as the Dems cling to them.

it is why the Obama admin did not go after all the 2008/9 criminality around Wall Street. Just imagine all the finger pointing to get deals once the SDNY started pulling in all the top people and demanding 'all criminality be admitted'. It would have lit a fire that spread so far outside toxic mortgages and likely would have caught up friends and family of the Politicians who work on Wall Street or with them.
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12-10-2020 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
@Rococo might correct my answer but I believe the various State Bars are not proactive organizations looking for violations of the Code of Ethics and instead are reactionary ones that will judge when they receive a report.
Correct
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12-10-2020 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
She needs to be disbarred immediately. How do these people keep getting away with this ****?
Attorney discipline by the bar is pretty rare, and it is almost never for making crappy arguments or filing frivolous stuff. 95 percent of it is misuse of client funds, or just not doing something that they took money for.

Anything that involves the actual in court practice of law is basically never disciplined.
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12-10-2020 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
Attorney discipline by the bar is pretty rare, and it is almost never for making crappy arguments or filing frivolous stuff. 95 percent of it is misuse of client funds, or just not doing something that they took money for.

Anything that involves the actual in court practice of law is basically never disciplined.
Also correct.
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12-10-2020 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
There are so many reasons this case will not be heard by the SC.

Chief among them is that this suit does not seek to get thrown any of the congressional results in those same States where Republican's won.

Thus the absurdity of the claim is that the processes accepted by these States to administer their elections were so bad and damaging that the POTUS results must be wiped up and undone but they were fine for determination of Congress, as long as we won.

These type of discrepancy are ones the SC focuses right in on and undermine any case.
Here is how I would put the odds on the Texas AG suit:

50% -- The Supreme Court declines to hear the case. The opinion is a one-liner. No dissents.

40% -- The SCOTUS declines to hear the case. Alito (and perhaps Thomas) write a dissenting opinion.

9.99% -- The Supreme Court agrees to hear the case and ultimately rules against Trump, probably in a 9-0 opinion.

0.01% -- The Court agrees to hear the case and issues some sort of ruling that amounts to a Trump victory.
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12-10-2020 , 11:10 PM
I really think .01% is probably on the high side, though if they take the case the sweat odds go way up. If they take it up, Trump's odds are clearly better than 999-1.
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12-11-2020 , 12:13 AM
Anybody have a working list of things he has described as scams or hoaxes?
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12-11-2020 , 12:34 AM
The Herman Cain option is clearly the best one.
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12-11-2020 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I really think .01% is probably on the high side, though if they take the case the sweat odds go way up. If they take it up, Trump's odds are clearly better than 999-1.
Wish I could find somebody to take this bet.
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