Sure. We can come up with many examples of people cutting losses and admitting mistakes. And we can come up with many examples of people, including poker players, doing the opposite. I suspect that every strong poker player at some point in his career has showed poor judgment and continued to play in a game despite mounting evidence that he did not have an edge.

I'm sure you were more disciplined about game selection than most poker players. But if you told me that you never made that mistake, I honestly would not believe you.

And the skeletons around this pandemic may be coming out for decades.

Cuomo was not the only Governor 'fudging data'. It is pretty clear many, if not most, were. They are all culpable of this very terrible and damaging behaviour. The calculus they seem to make is that as long as they keep an iron grip in power in the State they can keep it concealed and by the time they cannot, no one will really care.

Florida, Texas, etc will all eventually see the data leaks come out, but people will likely have moved on.

I see that as the bet Cuomo was making, but his other scandal weakened his iron grip just enough that this his scandal is happening when the media is hungry for sensational news in the post Trump lull.

Here in MI, there is a question if our Governor did a similar thing as Cuomo did in NY regarding nursing homes.

However, our governor has a "special twist" to her story. Our former director of health & safety departed office under questionable circumstances. He was paid a non-disclosure bonus. This is for a GOVERNMENT official. So he can't talk about why he left office. At this point, nobody knows for sure...but the word on the street is that there is a problem with the nursing homes and he and the governor had a "difference of opinion". The governor did not much care for that, so she canned him, and paid him to keep his mouth shut.

Obviously, if this is true, it would not be good for a democracy.

Many people are objecting (righteously so in my view) to government officials departing office and being paid for non-disclosure.

Our governor is clearly in the deep end of the pool and the water is over her head. She ain't the sharpest knife on the pool table!

That doesn't seem like something that should be legal and I wonder if it would hold up in the courts.

I know several people who have had, completely independently, serious professional interactions (on the scale of many months in two cases) with Cuomo and all describe him, with different words, as a bully and a power hungry psychotic. All are male and unhesitatingly believe all the accusations against him because apparently he treats everyone around him like **** all the time.

You can be sure that one time I would NOT allow myself to ignore mounting evidence that my original decision was wrong due to a psychological desire to not admit a mistake, would be when there were thousands of lives were on the line.

Nor I believe would Cuomo. I think he didn't rescind his order earlier, not because he didn't want to admit a mistake to himself, but rather because he didn't want to admit it to others.

I still have an active NDA for the military, so I can't imagine it's illegal.

Hey all:

I think Cuomo and his family is pretty much done. Who is supporting him at this point? All of his allies have pretty much disowned him.

My guess is that he is NOT resigning at this point, as he is probably trying to negotiate an exit on favorable terms. Cuomo is facing legal problems with the nursing home situation.

At least if he were smart, he would be looking for a favorable exit.

They had a story about Cuomo on the NY Times podcast The Daily the other day. He's a ruthless and vindictive sob. They talked about how the Working Families Party in NY didn't really want to support him (they had endorsed Cynthia Nixon in the primary), but they essentially told their members that "well, he's better than the Republicans".

Cuomo heard this, called up the head of the WFP, and told him, "If you say I'm better than the Republicans, I'll say you're better than a child rapist. How about that?". Cuomo's office denied he ever said it, but the NY Times got the audio recording... and that's exactly what he said. They played it on the podcast. Weird thing to say.

So you can see why no one is defending him. I think a lot of people are taking great satisfaction in his downfall.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR...Njk0NjMx?ep=14

Nyt pod on it, about to listen myself

Cuomo will never resign. IMO, he either will be removed from office or he will run for governor again. He is the same as Trump in that regard.

If he runs for governor again, I'm sorry to say that he will be drawing very live. Whether he wins another term depends to a large extent on who decides to challenge him.

lol do people here actually think Cuomo thinks he is ugly?

this is legit lunacy

someone who has lead a life like Cuomo does not think he is ugly and in most cases would think the opposite of this

I understand that you are both old but there is a huge difference between you and Cuomo. Especially in the areas of women. He would have lead a very different life to you.

Yeah lol. These powerful old guys have huge egos and know they can attract many women.

20-somethings dating 50-somethings is common of course, and perhaps even more so in political arena. Don't agree with all the talk of how unrealistic this is. Cuomo is pervy and abusive about it is the problem, not that he wants young meat and expects (some of) them to want him. Young admiring women been chasing older politico dudes since like forever.

He does it because sometimes it works for him. Normal people get checked hard when they try and don't try again. Rich/powerful guys get it to work regularly. Problem is sometimes they misjudge their targets and/or are just creepy jerks. Also times change. Justin's Trudeau's dad wouldn't get a pass anymore.

It just keeps getting worse
Cuomo got preferential covid tests for friends and family including his brother Chris

https://nypost.com/2021/03/24/gov-cu...covid-testing/

I’m cute so that’s 7 points. Cuomo is governor of New York so that’s gotta be worth at least two points. Maybe if he becomes president he could be in my league.

While this is definitely true, what makes Cuomo so stupid is that he was trying to roll up on assistants and staff.

If Cuomo were smart, and not stupid like everyone says he is, he would be rolling up on free range chicks at fund raising events, political rallies and things like that.

He could also put "word out" that he likes hotties 40 year younger than he is to his friends/associates. Have friends introduce him to "free and unencumbered" women.

Instead, he was stupid, and tried rolling up on staff/underlings. Now he has to pay the price, OR the "liberal" movement will shoot itself in the foot again.

At the very least it seems fair to say that any Presidential aspirations he may have had are now completely dashed.

New Yorkers might (collectively) be dumb enough to re-elect him as Governor, but I doubt he could ever earn the Democrat nomination for President.

edit: Looking forward to the inevitable made-for-TV movie about his rise and fall. Who will play him in the movie?

If Cuomo gets impeached and is forced out (doubt he would leave willingly) could AOC realistically run for Governor and win?

I doubt she would give up her House Seat so the question probably theoretical in more ways than one, but i am just curious to see if others think she would be able to win?

(bonus question is, could she hold her House seat while she ran and stay in it, in a loss?)

AOC's political skills are actually quite good, but I think she would be drawing very thin to win a race for governor.

Bump for the pervert who is holding on strong

I would have agreed prior to the Mayoral race but looking at that field I think she might have had a decent chance to win against any of them.

I don't see anyone in that field who might try their hand at the Governors race being a clear favorite over her. Yang was best positioned but I think he is done now, at least for a while similar to how Beto blew his mojo from his Gubernatorial run in Texas in his primary run for the Dem nomination.

So, if you agree with that, then it is all about potential new entrants and while we don't know what we don't know (any surprise entries), can you think of any prominent New Yorkers who have prior indicated an interest in these type of positions who might enter who would be a clear favorite over her?

For instance if Trump had never run for POTUS he had flirted enough with the idea of Politics to be a contender for this, but even the pre POTUS Trump I would not have called a clear favorite over AOC.

I just am not aware of any potentially heavy hitters in the wings who might jump in as the clear favorite in this race??

it is an interesting issue as i think he will absolutely play the Trump play book to the bitter end. Don't own the mistake, deflect and make it about them, and don't resign and wait for the media cycle to move on.

He did it the last time this blew up and it worked. His polling tanked while it was in the news and rose again after it left the news. It is tanking now but will likely rise again if this dies down.

But this time he faces a real possibility of being Impeached and thrown out. It seems they have the votes so he does not have that Trump back stop.

So would he hold on and force them to impeach him and go down in the history books with that on his record with a finding of corruption and wrong doing and being driven out of office? Or would he resign ala Nixon, after accepting they have the votes, while then being able to still maintain his innocence, for whatever that is worth in the history books.


I personally bet he resigns, if indeed his top people test the resolve and find they do have the votes to impeach and they cannot bully or change any of those votes to save him. They will buy time to see if they can shake the resolve of the usual compliant Cuomo backers (or bribe some of them with offers of more power) and defeat the Impeach vote but if they come to the realization they cannot, then he will resign.

Don't confuse AOC winning her Congressional district with broad support for her policies in the state. The progressive candidate couldn't win the mayoral race in NYC. That tells me that an equally progressive candidate would have an uphill battle in a statewide race. NYC is much more progressive than the state as a whole.

The main reason that I wouldn't rule out the possibility entirely is that her political skills are much better than you would expect from a relatively inexperienced politician.