And what exactly do you think New York should have done in lieu of sending non-critical patients home?

Kept them in a separate facility away from non-infected elderly people. LDO

Yeah, there is no mystery here. South Korea had a recent outbreak and as such were still prepared.

I mean, we eradicated smallpox as late as 1977, and it killed up to half a billion people in the 20th century (highest estimates). Yet, in 2020, anti-vaxxers have a vast social media presence and tons of influence. It doesn't take many years to become lax and stupid.

What facility did you have in mind? Giants stadium?

They had a hospital ship that wasn't used and javits center which was barely used. I'm sure another similar temporary facility could have been set up if necessary.

The hospital ship was designated for non-covid patients.

Well, I guess we're learning why the case numbers don't look so bad as states reopen much earlier than the Trump administration recommendations would suggest:

https://cbs12.com/news/local/woman-w...m-her-position

It could have been used for COVID patients. That isn't the point. The point is that the hospital ship only had 1000 beds. At the time the hospital ship arrived, there were an estimated 75,000-100,000 new infections in New York state per day. The overwhelming majority of infected New Yorkers were not tested, and could not have been tested, during this time. And even if it had been magically possible to test all New Yorkers in late March, the number of infected persons would have been too large to fit in 20 Javits Centers, much less one. And that completely ignores the difficulty of coming up with half a million beds in short order. Quarantining all infected New Yorkers in one giant facility was never an option, even if the testing had been available.

I'm sure there are too sides to this story, but any official who is manipulating actual date for political purposes (on either side) should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Daily deaths lag even farther behind than cases. What we are seeing in the death counts are numbers from when we were still locked down. We should expect a large spike in deaths in the next 3-4 weeks.

Gee, if I cant take the word of the fine folks at conservative review, who's word CAN I take?

Imagine a country that had people starve while staying at home that also gives huge subsidies to farmers who are destroying billions of dollars of food every week.

That would be a messed up country.

It is weird the people defending mindless reopening are not asking for intelligent reopening. It is so crazy. All they have to do is ask the president to finally start addressing the testing and tracing issues.

This backwards argument where some people act like others are against reopening and not just in favor of intelligent reopening is wrong.

We have two paths in front of us. One requires a little extra work but is magnitudes safer. Yet they act like it does not even exist. It is all “stay home and die or instant open libtards!”

I can not figure out why they so aggressively oppose doing things the intelligent and deliberate way that has a proven track record.

Why do you guys oppose intelligent reopening so strenuously? Is it just because the president is an imbecile who thinks having more tests makes him look bad? None of you on team “open wide” ever talk about testing and tracing. You act like it is some kind of pipe dream and not something pretty much any other president would have had us on the road towards long ago.

Tl;dr lol those stumping for mindless reopening. Aka why do 30% of Americans ALWAYS make the wrong choice?

Which they accidentally sent a Covid patient to... it is easy to a manage all this during a pandemic.

Put dr. Six pack in charge. He is at least as smart as the president.

Hear that Brian Kemp? Your biggest fan wants you prosecuted!!!

Sixpack barely has a room temperature IQ and he is easily twice as smart as the president.

#Georgia1

For the dummies here who still do not get it, deaths related to this will not show up for several weeks. In the meantime this outbreak and countless others like it will spread the virus all over. Then the death count will catch up and it will be too late as we will watch as deaths stack up for 6-8 weeks, even with an immediate shutdown.

On the idea that people just want to go to work, if the only place people could not go was work there would be no protests, demonstrations or cries of “freedom”.

FTFY (you included some stuff after the actual tweet id)

If people are angry about oppressive lockdown measures, they should probably turn most of their anger to an incompetent US administration which bungled the initial response.

it doesn't take a genius to realize that bungling an initial response when it comes to exponential growth will cost you a lot more later when you are playing catch up.

And anyone who objects to the usage of "bungled", please recall when the president of the United States told his fellow citizens the pandemic was not a problem and it would soon be 0 cases. Even though his own agencies had already given briefings contrary to this.

If you had to pick one industry that may be the last to open in Movie Theatres. I wonder if they consider immediately releasing more movies on demand for $20 like they are doing with some now.

Churches and theatres should be the last to open but we all know the power of religion so that will not be the case

Hard to believe that some casinos are opening...

Ok, I think we need a little perspective here. If you order deaths/million here are the top US states:



New York 362,630 +1,364 28,648 +168 271,310 18,641 1,473 1,489,521 76,568 [projections]

New Jersey 151,014 +927 10,591 +143 133,508 17,002 1,192 522,911 58,872 [projections]

Connecticut 38,430 +314 3,472 +23 28,694 10,779 974 185,520 52,035 [projections]

Massachusetts 87,925 +873 5,938 +76 54,175 12,757 862 476,940 69,197 [projections]

District Of Columbia 7,434 +164 400 +8 5,994 10,533 567 39,374 55,790 [projections]

Louisiana 35,038 +329 2,581 +18 6,208 7,537 555 278,073 59,816 [projections]

Michigan 52,350 +435 5,017 +102 19,099 5,242 502 438,565 43,914 [projections]

Rhode Island 12,951 +156 532 +26 11,533 12,225 502 117,246 110,676 [projections]

Pennsylvania 67,427 +753 4,751 +83 55,913 5,267 371 362,379 28,306 [projections]

Illinois 98,030 +1,545 4,379 +145 93,540 7,736 346 621,684 49,060 [projections]

Maryland 41,546 +1,784 2,081 +58 36,659 6,872 344 208,568 34,499 [projections]

Delaware 8,037 +168 304 +7 4,188 8,254 312 42,458 43,602 [projections

Whatever the Southern red states are or are not doing right, at some point we should acknowledge that they are not really the states we should be focusing on right now.

The focus on Georgia, Texas, etc. definitely feels more political than based on reality on the ground.

I doubt Gov. Kemp is the solution, but he is not the problem either.

Yeah that may rank worse than churches and movie theatres. I know Vegas will not be on this CDN's vacation list in 2020 and possibly 2021

USA/Canada border closed another 30 days Trump not happy about that I bet

I mean Florida just fired a lady for allegedly not agreeing to artificially lower the numbers. So yeah I guess the southern states are doing something right. Lying about the whole thing.

Also should probably do cases per million and testing per million rather than deaths because we obviously know deaths lag behind cases..