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Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?

They might have had us compete with girls? I don't even remember or care. Think high jump and long jump might have been co-ed.

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04-19-2024 , 02:28 PM

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So if you don't succeed, step down in class and it's all cool?

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04-19-2024 , 02:43 PM

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They might have had us compete with girls? I don't even remember or care. Think high jump and long jump might have been co-ed.

Would you support eliminating girls track and field events and having them complete against the boys?

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04-19-2024 , 02:46 PM

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Would you support eliminating girls track and field events and having them complete against the boys?

I don't have particularly strong opinions on this, what do you think?

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04-19-2024 , 02:54 PM

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I don't have particularly strong opinions on this, what do you think?

I think girls should be able to have their own divisions.

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04-19-2024 , 03:05 PM

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Shes an 11 year old on puberty blockers, which according to the people itt cause irreparable harm to muscle and bone structure while blocking testosterone production that would begin male puberty which is where the bone and muscle density become irreversibly superior to females.

According to the most bigoted of bigots (even itt) she should be more female than most females

They literally can't win with you people.

If you think 11 year old boys and girls are even close to
the same, I can only imagine how rough dodgeball must have been for you

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04-19-2024 , 03:05 PM

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I don't have particularly strong opinions on this, what do you think?

"This"

Lol

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04-19-2024 , 03:14 PM

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Would you therefore support just making all youth sports co-ed?

No, that doesn't follow.

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04-19-2024 , 03:22 PM

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We created women sports because otherwise women can never win, because the best men are just always (a lot) better than the best women.

Among men we keep wide ranges, but in some sports, we go with weight ranges, because in some sports, if you weight a lot more you always win.

If anything we should do more categories, otherwise a specific human subset always wins.

Some sports simply reward some specific, very genetically based, characteristics

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04-19-2024 , 03:25 PM

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Some sports simply reward some specific, very genetically based, characteristics

Some?

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04-19-2024 , 03:31 PM

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Some?

Some much more than others, and some only reward very specific traits, other reward trait combinations, so it's harder for an ethnic group to be ultra dominant.

Soccer famously does it less than most sports which is why you have fairly different genotypes among the top20 players in the game history.

Water polo as well is "very balanced", at least compared to other sports.

In general if a sport rewards mental characteristics and physical ones, it's harder for a single ethnicity to be ultra dominant.

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04-19-2024 , 03:39 PM

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They shouldn't be able to win.

Someone in this thread just linked a video, the action you're criticising was taken by young girls who didn't want to compete against a boy. Why don't you tell us what you think of those bigoted girls and how they're wrong here.

ding ding ding

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04-19-2024 , 03:40 PM

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Would you therefore support just making all youth sports co-ed?

reality 1, disgusting smarm 0

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04-19-2024 , 03:57 PM

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Give an inch, they'll take a mile.

Good on you, girls from West Virginia.

Also, Becky Pepper-Jackson is 13 years old, bigger than everyone else out there, and ended up with the top score at the competition in question, putting up a throw that went a full 3 feet past the #2 contender.

Multiple middle schools attended the competition. Only five girls refused to compete.

You can see the list here: https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndFie...sults/f/1/shot

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04-19-2024 , 04:07 PM

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Cordi claimed it was a 11y old on blockers, I wonder why he chose to lie to give the impression the kid never had any puberal advantage

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04-19-2024 , 04:23 PM

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Because he did the same thing I did, which was google the name. The very first article is one from 2021 claiming Becky is 11 and on blockers. I tried to substantiate the blockers thing further, but couldn't and gave up quickly. Frankly, it doesn't matter. We shouldn't be actively encouraging people to put their preteens on this sort of thing.

I didn't bother posting any of the photos because frankly there are some real girls who don't look particularly feminine, either. But the bottom line is that ol' Becky is out there kicking ass and taking names.

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04-19-2024 , 04:41 PM

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You guys are oddly obsessed with the minutia of a middle school girls shotput competition.

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04-19-2024 , 04:46 PM

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If by oddly obsessed, you mean gave it 3 minutes of my Friday afternoon, then yes, yes I am.

Just inject it directly into my veins, please.

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04-19-2024 , 05:10 PM

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You guys are oddly obsessed with the minutia of a middle school girls shotput competition.

more cheap and disgusting smarm in lieu of actual substance

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04-19-2024 , 06:06 PM

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more cheap and disgusting smarm in lieu of actual substance

I haven’t - and won’t - forget the last comment you made to me that was deleted. Saying “cheap” lands on very, very deaf ears.

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04-19-2024 , 07:38 PM

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I haven’t - and won’t - forget the last comment you made to me that was deleted. Saying “cheap” lands on very, very deaf ears.

that's all you do is post smarmy attacks made of strawmen, i was hoping you were taking time off to reflect on how terrible a person you were, guess i was wrong

and all i did was repeat your own words, so more strawmen smarm attacks

you're a broken record and this is all you're capable of

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04-19-2024 , 07:43 PM

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04-19-2024 , 08:06 PM

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Judging by some of the rage posting in here it's obvious at least a couple of you have been catfished by a trans before and/or flirted with one without knowing they're trans. This whole trans hate/fear thing is like attack of the gays in the 80s. Smarten up

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04-19-2024 , 08:08 PM

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Wtf is wrong with you.

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04-19-2024 , 08:18 PM

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Wtf is wrong with you.

more vague smarmy accusations, shocker

i genuinely thought you took that week off to self-reflect on your deplorable behavior and was hoping to see some progress from you on your return

you add nothing to any conversation, all you do is attack people, you're not a good person and you don't even add anything to the conversation, you're only here to insult others so you can feel better about yourself and you do with smarm to insulate yourself from rebuttals

you're a bad person and a coward

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