why is it dumb? You are referring to her past today, when she is a woman. Even saying “his past” is just super awkward ignoring the disrespectful angle.
Here's an example - I remember watching the 1976 Summer Olympics. Bruce Jenner competed. He won a gold medal. Saying it any other way is super awkward for me. This doesn't just apply to names on this topic. Where I used to live a street was named for an Olympic gold medalist that grew up in the area "Mary Jones Way". Later on, she got married and they changed the name to "Mary Smith Way". As things go, a few years later she got divorced and the changed the name back to "Mary Jones Way". I thought that was dumb, too. When she won the medal her name was "Mary Jones". The street should have remained that.
Here's an example - I remember watching the 1976 Summer Olympics. Bruce Jenner competed. He won a gold medal. Saying it any other way is super awkward for me.
This really shouldn't be so hard. Caitlyn Jenner won the gold medal when she was formerly competing as Bruce Jenner in then men's decathlon. Since everyone (but the transphobes) call her Caitlyn Jenner today and refer to her as female today, stories about her past just require that tiny bit of clarification that she previously competed in the male division, but it is easy to do that clarification while still maintaining her proper pronouns.
This really shouldn't be so hard. Caitlyn Jenner won the gold medal when she was formerly competing as Bruce Jenner in then men's decathlon. Since everyone (but the transphobes) call her Caitlyn Jenner today and refer to her as female today, stories about her past just require that tiny bit of clarification that she previously competed in the male division, but it is easy to do that clarification while still maintaining her proper pronouns.
When Jenner won the gold medal, did a male win or did a female win?
This really shouldn't be so hard. Caitlyn Jenner won the gold medal when she was formerly competing as Bruce Jenner in then men's decathlon. Since everyone (but the transphobes) call her Caitlyn Jenner today and refer to her as female today, stories about her past just require that tiny bit of clarification that she previously competed in the male division, but it is easy to do that clarification while still maintaining her proper pronouns.
Right, the true gender that trans people have an innate, incorruptible connection to since age 3.
How to explain the de-transitioned and this innate, pure insight into true gender?
It isn't a requirement of being a trans person - or a cis person, for that matter - that your inate sense of your gender has been fixed through your entire life. These little gotcha attempts aren't nearly as clever as you think they are.
Adding these little transphobic FYP comments really doesn't help anything. We get it, you don't believe in referring to trans people by the gender they identify with. These little random interjections of yours really do nothing.
It isn't a requirement of being a trans person - or a cis person, for that matter - that your inate sense of your gender has been fixed through your entire life. These little gotcha attempts aren't nearly as clever as you think they are.
Wait, what exactly are you referring to that is not fixed? The gender?
Wait, what exactly are you referring to that is not fixed? The gender?
You said this:
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Right, the true gender that trans people have an innate, incorruptible connection to since age 3
But that is a strawman. Nobody has claimed that all trans people have some had the, uh, how did you phrase it, innate, incorruptible, connection that is fixed throughout their life.
You said this:
But that is a strawman. Nobody has claimed that all trans people have some had the, uh, how did you phrase it, innate, incorruptible, connection that is fixed throughout their life.
It’s been said by multiple people, multiple times their true gender identity is “innate”. So the trans innate connection to their true gender is not incorruptible?
Adding these little transphobic FYP comments really doesn't help anything. We get it, you don't believe in referring to trans people by the gender they identify with. These little random interjections of yours really do nothing.
It isn't a requirement of being a trans person - or a cis person, for that matter - that your inate sense of your gender has been fixed through your entire life. These little gotcha attempts aren't nearly as clever as you think they are.
Adding these little transphobic FYP comments really doesn't help anything. We get it, you don't believe in referring to trans people by the gender they identify with. These little random interjections of yours really do nothing.
It was just a friendly reminder. Not intended for you to get triggered to the level you are.
It’s been said by multiple people, multiple times their true gender identity is “innate”. So the trans innate connection to their true gender is not incorruptible?
Some trans people have experienced an "innate" sense of their gender from a very early age as you suggest, others have had their sense of gender change over time. This happens with sexuality as well.
Some trans people have experienced an "innate" sense of their gender from a very early age as you suggest, others have had their sense of gender change over time. This happens with sexuality as well.
Tell me if I’m understanding the claim.
The claim is that some trans people have an incorruptible sense of their true gender from the beginning, but the connection to true gender for other trans people is impeded and they don’t get the pure insight until later.
If this is correct, what is preventing the pure insight early on for the latter group? How come they don’t have the sacred connection from the beginning?
