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07-26-2023 , 11:24 PM
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To complicate it further, I don't think all sports require a ban - some sports can make other accomodations.
I'd really like to see the females get a head start. Just put them in all one division with handicaps. It could work for all sorts of sports.
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07-26-2023 , 11:37 PM
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I know you think using ad hominems make you sound smart
I have no idea why you have said this.

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when people call you stupid for saying stupid things for stupid reasons maybe you should do some self reflection before sharing your supposed drips of wisdom with a crowd of people who disagree with you.
I don't think being called stupid is a reason to not participate with a crowd that disagrees with a person. You end up like monteroy with that attitude. Being your only critic and constantly self-affirming your own intelligence.

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Sorry you think my explanation is weird. Even stated summarily, it is nuanced beyond your ability to understand. It's not simply believing people should be forced to compete with those sharing biological gender.
I feel like you don't understand the words you are using.

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Just because we agree on outcome, doesn't mean we get to our conclusions the same way.
You are alluding to something but not saying it.

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To complicate it further, I don't think all sports require a ban - some sports can make other accomodations.
Of course, thats a rational sentiment. I have no idea why you are calling it a ban.
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07-27-2023 , 02:40 AM
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Well firstly, for you to make such a statement you need a definition of woman to replace the word woman. Thats how words work so replace it, 'Neither I nor you know if that person’s smile is a trait of a ..... [definition of woman]'
Ah, I see. You can use a word freely but I must stop my argument to define terms for you when you demand it. I don't think so. What did you mean by women when you said, "Is this how women smile"? I imagine we have more or less the same idea but you can be the one to waste your time on it.

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I haven't shifted the goalpost you have misunderstood my question.

Its certainly just my read. But how is it transphobic if I only feel this way about some trans celebrities?
Yes, just I misunderstood, in exactly the same way as several other posters here. Either you're lying and moving the goalposts or you need to be a better communicator. I think it's the former but the latter is also true. People definitely have selective bigotry. At least in how tolerent they are. There are some members of a group they view as the good ones and some they view as the bad. When your belief that someone is faking their gender identity is based on nothing but a hunch and you think it's worth expressing and defending that publicly it's hard to take it another way. The charitable take is that you're a little unhinged.
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07-27-2023 , 02:52 AM
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Ah, I see. You can use a word freely but I must stop my argument to define terms for you when you demand it. I don't think so. What did you mean by women when you said, "Is this how women smile"? I imagine we have more or less the same idea but you can be the one to waste your time on it.
I meant to call attention to the absurdity of the question, not to try to argue that there is a way he can smile that makes him a woman.

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Yes, just I misunderstood, in exactly the same way as several other posters here. Either you're lying and moving the goalposts or you need to be a better communicator. I think it's the former but the latter is also true. People definitely have selective bigotry. At least in how tolerent they are. There are some members of a group they view as the good ones and some they view as the bad. When your belief that someone is faking their gender identity is based on nothing but a hunch and you think it's worth expressing and defending that publicly it's hard to take it another way. The charitable take is that you're a little unhinged.
This is why I brought up Elizabeth warren. Its not transphobia if I'm accused of randomly accusing only certain trans as being not genuine. Unless you mean to call me racist for calling out warren for the same type of charade.
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07-27-2023 , 10:34 AM
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You definitely need to adopt scrutiny for proper survival in this world. The sadder way to live would be what you are saying which is to not scrutinize people and take them at their face value. society would destroy you.
I've survived a long time by taking most things at face value. Does that mean I'm naive? No. I scrutinize things that call for it. As an example, when someone is making social media posts as a way to make money, I understand that they are paid to be entertaining or to promote certain products. But without some good reason to (her smile is fake is not a good reason) I would never question if someone was trans, or was Jewish, or was an accountant, or a doctor.


I'll let you know when society has destroyed me.
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07-27-2023 , 10:49 AM
Probably a doctor you might want to question
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07-27-2023 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I've survived a long time by taking most things at face value. Does that mean I'm naive? No. I scrutinize things that call for it. As an example, when someone is making social media posts as a way to make money, I understand that they are paid to be entertaining or to promote certain products. But without some good reason to (her smile is fake is not a good reason) I would never question if someone was trans, or was Jewish, or was an accountant, or a doctor.

I'll let you know when society has destroyed me.
What about whether or not this is a woman?

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07-27-2023 , 11:13 AM
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What about whether or not this is a woman?


Nice try, purposely using an unattractive picture of Dylan. She's incredibly beautiful now, even more so than before.
Bottom line: trans women are women, and trans men are men.

Poker is a game that provides no possible advantage to any gender, so it shouldn't even be up for debate whether or not trans women should be able to compete in women only tournaments.
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07-27-2023 , 11:25 AM
Jbouton has made many terrible points, but freeze framing an awkward smile and trying to deduce something from that has to take the cake.

Doesn’t matter, as evidenced by the video I shared above Dylan’s message of love and acceptance to tens of millions is going to dwarf and army of jboutons spreading their message of hate and rejection to Internet forums of a dozen people.
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07-27-2023 , 11:29 AM
I'm drinking a Heineken in support of Dylan


Brazil is actually the #1 country for lgbt identification in the world. Gayest country there is.
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07-27-2023 , 11:33 AM
What is it with these guys constantly spamming the same image over and over? Cupee did the same thing before he popped.
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07-27-2023 , 11:42 AM
They presume that the inherent feeling of disgust they feel seeing a trans woman is felt by others and are quite surprised when just posting a pic of a trans woman doesn’t automatically win the argument for them.
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07-27-2023 , 11:44 AM
Not sure there isn't a closet fetish thing going on tbqh.
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07-27-2023 , 11:52 AM
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Not sure there isn't a closet fetish thing going on tbqh.
There often is. I know from experience lol
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07-27-2023 , 11:53 AM
This thread ****ing blows. I feel like a Eugenia Cooney thread would be way better
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07-27-2023 , 11:57 AM
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Probably a doctor you might want to question
If I was looking for medical advice, sure, I'd verify credentials. If they made posts about what was their favorite vodka, no.
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What about whether or not this is a woman?
Since it's not a secret they are trans, I'm not sure what the question is. But to play along, I've seen many stranger looking women in my life. I have no reason to doubt they are trans.
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07-27-2023 , 11:58 AM
White Rose, now there's a horrible transgender person. **** I hate that bitch. What a ****ing piece of ****
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07-27-2023 , 11:59 AM


Top story on zerohedge, complete with everyone's favorite photo
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07-27-2023 , 12:00 PM
I feel like Eugenia Cooney would be susceptible to White Rose's brainwashing
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07-27-2023 , 12:02 PM
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I feel like Eugenia Cooney would be susceptible to White Rose's brainwashing
Should we know who they are?
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07-27-2023 , 12:02 PM
Oh they put that person on the bud light can? They should have put Eugenia Cooney on there she's way prettier and she has far more social media relevancy. No one knows who the **** this thread is about, even like LGBT type people ... just no clue about what or who the **** you people are even talking about and who this person is.
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07-27-2023 , 12:02 PM
lmao should we know who the **** this person this thread is about is???
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07-27-2023 , 12:04 PM
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07-27-2023 , 12:07 PM
rawr, like uproar, Conservatives! Eugenia Cooney is teaching your kids to not eat and how to spit their steak into napkins covertly.




Why is this not the thread?? lmao
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07-27-2023 , 12:26 PM
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Top story on zerohedge, complete with everyone's favorite photo
Zerohedge certainly has an agenda. It's 2% of the AB Inbev US workforce. That doesn't sound nearly as bad though. They've got thousands of emplyees abroad as well. Last year they fired 2,000 people. Obviously their sales are down but the industry is shrinking altogether and a bunch of other alcohol companies aren't doing too hot either so I don't think you can lay all the blame on the ad campaign.
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