It’s also worth noting that this is the result of an investigation in which Clinton did not repeatedly and blatantly obstruct.

Nope.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...il-destruction

"Clinton's use of BleachBit avoided 'money trail' in email destruction
by Sarah Westwood
| August 29, 2016 02:06 PM

Hillary Clinton's decision to use BleachBit to scrub her private email server could have been based on the fact that the free software can be downloaded and used with complete anonymity, the program's developer said.

Andrew Ziem, the creator of BleachBit, pointed to a recent CNN report about his software in which a computer security expert had speculated that Clinton's team would have selected a more expensive, more sophisticated service if it truly sought to conceal records.

"While there may be some merit to that, there is also an argument to be made for hoping that this doesn't leave a money trail," Ziem

Ziem said he was not aware Clinton had applied BleachBit to her server until Rep. Trey Gowdy said so on Fox News Thursday, because downloads of the program are anonymous and untraceable.

Gowdy said Clinton's emails had been so thoroughly scrubbed that "even God can't read them."

"It seems probable that the intent was to erase information," Ziem said of Clinton's use of BleachBit.

The open-source software can also be used to clear space on a computer with a cluttered memory, the BleachBit creator said.

But in a post on his website Saturday, Ziem noted the program is an effective way to delete emails beyond recovery short of the "physical destruction" of servers with "a hammer or blow torch."

Millions of people have downloaded BleachBit since its creation in 2008, Ziem said. He noted his website has experienced a spike in traffic since Clinton's use of BleachBit was revealed.

Nobody from the FBI contacted Ziem at any point during the year-long investigation of Clinton's private email use, despite the fact that the Democratic nominee's decision to download BleachBit was discovered by agents as part of that probe.

Members of Congress learned about the methods Clinton's legal team employed to destroy records after the FBI turned over notes from its closed investigative file earlier this month."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ld-cell-phone/

"Interviewer George Stephanopoulos asked the former FBI Director about Clinton staffers destroying their Blackberries, a fact that has understandably raised suspicion for those who believe Hillary Clinton and those surrounding her may have destroyed evidence during the 2016 investigation overseen by Comey and Andrew McCabe.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: One of the things that President Trump and his allies bring up is that at some point, her staff smashed Blackberries, also whitewashed the server?

JAMES COMEY: Yeah. There was evidence that old Blackberries, after she was finished with them, they destroyed them, which I think a fair number of people do to make sure that if it’s resold, someone doesn’t end up with your information. And that after they produced information back to the d— to the Department of State, they used— a software program to clean the server to make sure there was nothing on it, or clean laptops to make sure there’s nothing on them.
"

Stop living in a fact free world.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/704890002/

"The IG report gives the impression that the FBI treated Clinton and her coterie like royalty — or at least like personages worthy of endless deference. When Bleachbit software or hammers were used to destroy email evidence under congressional subpoena, the FBI treated it as a harmless error. The IG report “questioned whether the use of a subpoena or search warrant might have encouraged Clinton, her lawyers ... or others to search harder for the missing devices (containing email), or ensured that they were being honest that they could not find them.” Instead, FBI agents worked on “rapport-building” with Clinton aides."

"Anti-Trump texts spurred the IG to refer five FBI employees for possible disciplinary penalties. One FBI agent labeled Trump supporters as “******ed” and declared “I’m with her” (Clinton). Another FBI employee texted that “Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS.” One FBI lawyer texted that he was “devastated” by Trump’s election and declared “Viva la Resistance!” and “I never really liked the Republic anyway.” The same person became the “primary FBI attorney assigned to (Russian election interference) investigation beginning in early 2017,” the IG noted.'

It will be interesting when Bill Barr takes a look at these investigations. Imagine people like Comey and Strzok will have a long time in jail to think about what they have done...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.24fe5b3e93b9



"On March 4, 2015, the Benghazi Committee issued a subpoena requiring Clinton to turn over her emails relating to Libya. Three weeks later, between March 25 and March 31, the employee had an “oh s—” moment and realized he did not delete the emails that Mills requested in December 2014, he told the FBI. The employee then deleted the emails and used a program called BleachBit to delete the files."

It is also worth noting that Strozk was working on an "insurance plan" as a way to stop drumpf and help hillary in both investigations. The one into Russia and the one into Hillary... A guy who could "smell the trump support". Barr will look into all that....

first paragraph of the Post article:

I would say that you're idiotically unaware that your argument is debunked by your own fact-checking links, but objective reality isn't something a spammer/troll actually cares about. Joke is on me for even reading your posts.

So congrats on actually receiving attention, but I think you're pushing your luck if you think you can get the same with the OBAMA SPYING or FBI LOVERS nonsense.

Bengazi spotted

I know what the article said.... Just because washington post says there is "no evidence" it was deleted because of the subpoena, does not mean its true. The article backs up what i have been called a liar about, the emails were deleted with bleachpit and it was done after the subpoena was put in..

Not sure what is nonsense about Obama spying or the Fbi lovers. Obams DOJ put in FISAs that allegedly withheld key information to spy on the President Trump when he was a candidate. There were people in the FBI working on cases involving Hillary and Drumpf that showed clear bias against Drumpf. They had a "insurance plan". This Russia conspiracy/collusion was that plan. It is over now. Mueller found out that there was no conspiracy. Now it is time for Bill Barr to investigate the investigators, the FISAs will be declassified and people will be put in jail for unlawful spying.

The simultaneous claim that Comey - the man who gave Trump the last push towards the presidency with his comments about the investigation - was deliberately covering things up for Hillary and that Barr - the man who deliberately misrepresented the findings of the Mueller report in order to protect Trump - is going to run an objective investigation is wild.

Lol right-wingers. Lol this thread.

edit:

BS. At certain point when the other party is just flinging ****, the only thing to do is point and laugh.

Yeah that Clinton emails high ground loses a lot of value when seemingly everyone in Trumps inner circle is doing the same thing. Similarly 'but a subpoena!' rings pretty hollow right this second.

Guys these are terrible attack lines that are absolutely expired. You need to find new targets. Unfortunately AOC is a lot more squeaky clean than HRC and much better at defending herself.

My choice to call this a containment thread hopefully makes my editorial bias fairly clear...

However, there is something to be said for the idea that the best response to thinking it's a bunch of nonsense that doesn't deserve a response is simply to leave the thread unopened. It's clearly labeled for that reason.

We've already had the "Omar married her brother for a green card" made up off of an forum post. Soon you'll have The Squad are serial killers responsible for a string of local conservative heroes' deaths across the Northeast and people demanding that AOC account for her whereabouts on June 15th 2015 or whatever.

Damn, if Comey was conspiring with Drumpf to take out hillary, why did drumpf betray him and fire him?? Barr seems like a great guy to me! I don't think he is corrupt. Seems like he released the full Mueller report for you to judge for yourself

The reason this got started is because people are saying Drumpf committed obstruction of justice, for considering firing or telling his lawyer to fire Mueller. When Hillary actually obstructed justice by having emails that were subpoena destroyed...

https://www.vox.com/2019/7/24/207083...uction-justice

Mueller made this assertion in response to questioning from Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA), the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee. Collins, in a series of rapid-fire questions, asked the special counsel whether “your investigation [was] curtailed or stopped or hindered?”

“No,” Mueller responded.

Ya, I've seen that floating around on twitter, seems like there is a lot of smoke on that claim. I don't really care. Hope she just loses her reelection.

im so happy we get to have conspiracy threads all over the front page of politics now. its such good politics and society...

all these alt-right conspiracies hinge on the fact that they believe everyone was against trump becoming president, but for some reason did everything possible to help him.

republican comey clearly helped trump through bull****ting about the ongoing investigation right before the election and then immediately closing it after, but yet here we are with trump and bag handlers claiming that it was really to get trump somehow..

Great forum you got here

I didn't say he was conspiring with Trump, just that the notion that he was covering things up for Hillary was absurd.

As for Barr, he literally released a misleading summary, immediately received a letter from Mueller telling him it was misleading, and then said nothing to clarify matters for the entire month before the report was released. He deliberately mislead the public in order to control the media reporting on the report. It worked so well that even when the full report explicitly contradicted the constant claiming that the report exonerated Trump of obstruction of justice people still think it exonerates him because that was thing they heard for weeks. The idea that he was non-partisan, which is a supposedly a specific requirement for his job, in those actions is ridiculous.

You aren't wrong.

This thread is like reading posts from a Scientology forum.

Get over it losers. Hillary won the election and is running the country through the deep state while diaper Don ****s his pants and can't break 120 at golf.

It would be simpler if you just infracted/banned posters who are breaking forum rules and also wasting everyone's time instead of giving them entire threads

Your style seems to be to try and find a middle ground or keep open the discussion/dialogue so that "both sides" can engage and not feel like they can't speak up. At some point you have to realize (and act on, because you're a mod ffs) that that style winds up protecting blatant trolls and downright crappy posters who actually are a detriment to the entire conversation and the reading experience of those who just lurk and want to learn ****