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06-10-2024 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
Global Warming (which they had to rename "climate change", because 20 years ago they said by the year 2025 we were supposed to have already all been fried up dead and drowned by the ocean by now) is just another arm of a fake agenda by the global dictators to help them gain ultimate control and fulfill their plan to take over the entire planet but just becasue all you obedient demobrats vote/cheer for them it doesn't at all mean they have you're backs. They want total control over you as well, which is why President Trump always says "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you".
Who said by 2025 that ?
Is that the same kind of affirmation like the one claiming people want life in prison for trump for what he got guilty for lately about hush money ?

Or it is just usual exaggeration ?
Because I don’t remember that at all .
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06-10-2024 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Still no data on how much stuff gets produced at the end of each year anyway, I see.

Nothing else matters but let's pile the comments, the anecdotes, the financial situation of provinces (???), not the only single thing we are talking about which is, at the end of everything that's happening, HOW MUCH IS CANADA PRODUCING in agriculture?

Is it dramatically lower than in 2005? 2010? Show me
if you don’t believe yield is important, greater losses isn’t an issues , higher taxes and subsidies , higher insurance cost , etc isn’t an issue on profitability well I just don’t know what to tell you .

Bigger do not mean better .
Higher gdp as a whole do not necessarily means the economy is better if gdp per capita getting much lower , despite the country producing more as a whole shrug .

Apply that to agriculture….
If we produce more but we gain less , meaning we need to produce more just to get the same , how in the hell is that a positive outcome ?
That is what climate changes do in Canada for agriculture ….

So to think with even higher temperatures for agriculture is good for us , u are very wrong .

FWIW u can see here in the last 5 years agriculture isn’t following the growth of the country .
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=3610043403

And here going further at like 1997 we see how agriculture gdp isn’t keeping its share in Canada economy …
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Can...f_agriculture/

So when u say climate change is good for agriculture in Canada don’t WTF u talking about …
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06-10-2024 , 11:52 PM
If Canada can heat up just a little bit, I might make a trip there every now and again
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06-12-2024 , 06:41 AM
In order to save the climate, the EU just increased tariffs on chinese EV massively (not as much as Biden did, but still a lot).

As usual the left says something and acts to the contrary, when will people learn?
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06-12-2024 , 07:58 AM
The EU is not the left.

It's right and going further right at a pace
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06-12-2024 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
The EU is not the left.

It's right and going further right at a pace
If socialists aren't the left, words have no meaning
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06-12-2024 , 08:05 AM
I agree
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06-12-2024 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
If socialists aren't the left, words have no meaning
If you really thought the EU was socialist you'd be vehemently against both it and Italy's membership of it.
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06-12-2024 , 08:58 AM
For the foreigners amongst us. The president of the european comission is currently Ursula von der Leyen

Von der Leyen is a member of the centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and its affiliated europarty, the European People's Party (EPP).

The EPP: The European People's Party (EPP) is a European political party with Christian-democratic,[4] liberal-conservative,[4] and conservative[5][6] member parties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party
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06-12-2024 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
If you really thought the EU was socialist you'd be vehemently against both it and Italy's membership of it.
The current EU commission includes socialists as part of the coalition.

The current EU commission operated socialist choices wrt the environment and green insanities.

It isn't the EU that it is socialist, it's EU specific policy choices, and the current commission, that are. The EU is just a federation of states.

In general on economics the EU is more to the right than Italy, but in recent times that changed.

Now with these elections things should change again a little toward my preferences.

The eur isn't socialism, free circulation of capitals isn't socialism, free markets aren't socialism
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06-12-2024 , 09:15 AM
Well... it's pretty clear that to be a member you have to agree to free movement of people. Without that it's just the EEC.

How do you feel about that?
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06-12-2024 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Well... it's pretty clear that to be a member you have to agree to free movement of people. Without that it's just the EEC.

How do you feel about that?
Now that it has been clarified it doesn't guarantee welfare, fine actually. As you can remember i am pro open borders at no welfare.

It also helps putting countries in fiscal competition between them which is a very important outcome of such a policy.

I was happy when romanian people could finally come into Italy easily and with far less bureaucracy for ex. For some of them it didn't work out well, they tried elsewhere. Many stayed succesfully.

That's how immigration is supposed to be, no burden for the failures on the country that opened the borders.
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06-12-2024 , 03:27 PM
Swiss parliament voted to not give a **** about the deranged European court decision about climate change

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ng-2024-06-12/
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06-12-2024 , 03:46 PM
**** Switzerland, but this bit interested me

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Switzerland, warming at more than twice the global rate
Is that true of central Europe as a whole?
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06-12-2024 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
**** Switzerland, but this bit interested me



Is that true of central Europe as a whole?
Not sure but I read some areas in Europe are warming (as defined by the yearly average temperature presently vs the 1850-1900 avg) more than the world on avg.

That could include Switzerland (it certainly includes northern Italy at least in the sources I read).

Ofc that's even a bigger blessing given northern Italy and Switzerland are places with yearly average temperatures dramatically lower than the human optimal (which is 20-25 Celsius year around).
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06-12-2024 , 04:37 PM
It's interesting. At first you might think that inland areas would be more prone to greater temperature rises, but then again the sea temperatures have been rising very fast so maybe the summertime cooling effect on coastal areas is diminishing quickly.
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06-12-2024 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
It's interesting. At first you might think that inland areas would be more prone to greater temperature rises, but then again the sea temperatures have been rising very fast so maybe the summertime cooling effect on coastal areas is diminishing quickly.
Last time I dived into it for Mediterranean Europe it was about some purportwd changes in weather patterns unrelated to closeness to the sea but related to the area on the world (so the appennines got hotter the same as coastal central Italy, both areas much more than the world avg, again vs the 1850-1900 baseline).

I don't care too much about details but if you want I can source papers. What I know is that a warmer central or northern Italy is a more human friendly place so I will cheer for the event and move on
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06-12-2024 , 04:53 PM
I'd really quite like a map showing projected temperature rises if you have one.
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06-12-2024 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
map showing projected temperature


90% chance that 3 billion people will have to choose between going hungry
and moving their families to milder climes because of climate change

https://www.newscientist.com/article...rming-by-2100/

This map offers an alternative:
lots of misery and disaster, but also plenty of hope and solutions.

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/wh...-4degc-warmer/
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06-12-2024 , 06:51 PM
100% chance that leftism will kill more people than climate change
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06-12-2024 , 07:12 PM
interactive map shows how global warming will impact 520 cities

in future, New York City’s winters will have the weather of today’s
Virginia Beach (damp and cold) and wet Seattle will be like drier San Francisco
St. Louis will experience a climate similar to that of today’s Dallas

https://www.geospatialworld.net/blog...ities-by-2050/

shrinking reservoirs may spark major water crisis globally

https://www.geospatialworld.net/blog...isis-globally/
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06-12-2024 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
interactive map shows how global warming will impact 520 cities

in future, New York City’s winters will have the weather of today’s
Virginia Beach (damp and cold) and wet Seattle will be like drier San Francisco
St. Louis will experience a climate similar to that of today’s Dallas

https://www.geospatialworld.net/blog...ities-by-2050/

shrinking reservoirs may spark major water crisis globally

https://www.geospatialworld.net/blog...isis-globally/
Its amazing how we hear every 10 years we only have 10 years to react . Even if all this is true let me try and explain the logic here

The world represents a boat that is sinking . We have a country like Canada using a thimble to bail out the boat. We have a country like USA using a cup to bail out the boat. Sadly we have China and India in the boat with buckets adding water . The boats gonna sink unless its a world problem
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06-12-2024 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I'd really quite like a map showing projected temperature rises if you have one.
I'll try to find some actual science but it's hard given the bullshitting we see all around
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06-12-2024 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Its amazing how we hear every 10 years we only have 10 years to react . Even if all this is true let me try and explain the logic here

The world represents a boat that is sinking . We have a country like Canada using a thimble to bail out the boat. We have a country like USA using a cup to bail out the boat. Sadly we have China and India in the boat with buckets adding water . The boats gonna sink unless its a world problem
every election if you don't vote their candidate democracy dies.

then they lose, democracy doesn't die but the NEXT ELECTION It will die if you don't vote their candidate.

the climate will die and your dog will become vegan as well. your AC will fail in the summer and your heating system will break down in the winter which will be the coldest ever because of climate warming and if you don't see why that's obvious you are an antivaxer
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06-13-2024 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
100% chance that leftism will kill more people than climate change
100% chance that capitalism already has.
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