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10-06-2023 , 12:22 PM
you do seem like you watch a lot of youtube
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10-06-2023 , 12:34 PM
New guy with the zingers!

Any channel recommendations?

I do about 15 hours a week in audiobooks, too, if you think I'd be better served with something based on the written word. Note that hockey stick graphs don't translate well to audio, though, so keep it light with anything requiring visual aids.
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11-22-2023 , 04:27 PM
Wow the richest 1% emit more carbon than the 5 billion poorest

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/comp...6e4b3ddd&ei=30
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11-22-2023 , 05:00 PM
makes sense. private jets are some of the dumbest things in the world that we allow.
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11-22-2023 , 05:06 PM
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makes sense. private jets are some of the dumbest things in the world that we allow.
How else are they going to get to Climate summits to lecture us about how much carbon we produce?
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11-22-2023 , 07:10 PM
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How else are they going to get to Climate summits to lecture us about how much carbon we produce?
yes they are more private jet to lecture people then regular people traveling by all airplane
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11-22-2023 , 10:33 PM
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How else are they going to get to Climate summits to lecture us about how much carbon we produce?
Sometimes in surgery the surgeon cuts through healthy skin/tissue in order to fix a larger problem. Duh.
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11-28-2023 , 08:04 AM
Trump's climate plan:

a second term would see him roll back climate initiatives designed to keep the planet livable.

for Trump, the future of the planet isn’t a concern

This refusal to see what’s coming is like being obsessed about
who can build the bigger sandcastle as a tidal wave approaches.

They want to make things even worse, in the name of “energy independence” and other
slogans to cover up their willingness to trade human lives for higher profits and share prices.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...nge-rcna126810
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11-28-2023 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Trump's climate plan:

a second term would see him roll back climate initiatives designed to keep the planet livable.

for Trump, the future of the planet isn’t a concern

This refusal to see what’s coming is like being obsessed about
who can build the bigger sandcastle as a tidal wave approaches.

They want to make things even worse, in the name of “energy independence” and other
slogans to cover up their willingness to trade human lives for higher profits and share prices.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...nge-rcna126810
Im curious which human lives are we sacrificing ? The children working in the cobalt mines to get the cobalt for our electric batteries? Or all the slave workers in China building our solar panels?

Trump lowered emissions in his term in office and not by his doing but by the fact many power generating plants converted to natural gas from coal.

Nothing Joe Biden is doing is going to solve the climate crisis

All those folks with electric cars are going to be in a world of hurt when they need a new battery which can cost as much as $50,000
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11-28-2023 , 12:03 PM
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All those folks with electric cars are going to be in a world of hurt when they need a new battery which can cost as much as $50,000
Holy Horse Hockey. That's quite a stretch to get to 50K from where we are in 2023.
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11-28-2023 , 02:11 PM
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Holy Horse Hockey. That's quite a stretch to get to 50K from where we are in 2023.


Those are CDN $ and stuff is more in Canada under Justin
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11-28-2023 , 03:56 PM
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Those are CDN $ and stuff is more in Canada under Justin
So how often have you told people that "it could cost up to $50 K" when your one and only example of that is one where Hyundai says they ****ed up and are going to make good on it? Did you just watch up until they said $50 K, and then move on to your next Breaking Points video, or are you being intentionally misleading?

Also, LOL at the last half of your sentence. Does 5 minutes go by in your life when you don't think about JT?
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11-28-2023 , 04:07 PM
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So how often have you told people that "it could cost up to $50 K" when your one and only example of that is one where Hyundai says they ****ed up and are going to make good on it? Did you just watch up until they said $50 K, and then move on to your next Breaking Points video, or are you being intentionally misleading?

Also, LOL at the last half of your sentence. Does 5 minutes go by in your life when you don't think about JT?
Yeah if you believe Hyundai Oh now that its being investigated we will give you $25,000 to a new Hyundai. If there is no news story nothing happens .

Didnt see Hyundai correcting the amount it should cost either

The question should be why so much for a Hyundai battery compared to a Tesla . There are other Models like Mercedez that also cost $50,000 once you factor in labor

Only when I fill up my tank, buy groceries and watch the news. A little less than the folks here focus on Trump

Its nice to see you have one standard for me and fxxk the rest because they agree with you politically . Bless Your Heart

Last edited by lozen; 11-28-2023 at 04:20 PM.
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11-28-2023 , 04:09 PM
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Than why is he being quoted $50,000? Obviously your chart is wrong
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11-28-2023 , 05:13 PM
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Than why is he being quoted $50,000? Obviously your chart is wrong
I don’t think the link he posted comprises the labour cost which it is in the video u posted .
Maybe they even have some kind of fraud or bad faith involve with the labour cost at that specific store because no other example
Have been reported for the same thing which I thinks we would of heard of it already if it was such a common event ….
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11-28-2023 , 05:40 PM
Labor to extract old and drop in new (full battery, not just a cell or two) is 2.5 - 5.0 hours.
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11-28-2023 , 05:41 PM
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The question should be why so much for a Hyundai battery compared to a Tesla .
That question doesn't make a lot of sense when Hyundai has said it doesn't cost that much.

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Its nice to see you have one standard for me and fxxk the rest because they agree with you politically . Bless Your Heart
I've been known to disagree with people from the entire range of the political spectrum. But sure, I'm definitely biased towards disagreeing more often with those that view politics differently than I do. Do you consider that unusual?

And I also disagree more often with those who make ridiculous claims. Perhaps you should try doing that less often, rather than worrying about how often I disagree with others?

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Than why is he being quoted $50,000?
You've already been told why, in the video you posted. It's fine if you don't want to believe them, but to pretend they didn't explain it is pretty weak.

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Obviously your chart is wrong
Why is that obvious? Sure, it's possible that Hyundai is lying in that report, and that they charge $50,000 for a battery for a car that costs $50,000. It's also possible that there was a **** up like Hyundai says there was, and that the many, many sites that quote prices of far less than $50,000 are right. The latter seems far more likely to me.

That said, some prices in that chart are definitely on the very low end of pricing I've seen, so I do think there could be some inaccuracies, especially the Hyundai one. But not in the 'well there was one news report that a Hyundai Ioniq battery was quoted at $50,000, so it must be $50,000' sort of way. Given that most of the prices are ranges, it could be they only found one price for the Hyundai and it was inaccurate.
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11-28-2023 , 07:51 PM
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Im curious which human lives are we sacrificing ? The children working in the cobalt mines to get the cobalt for our electric batteries? Or all the slave workers in China building our solar panels?

Trump lowered emissions in his term in office and not by his doing but by the fact many power generating plants converted to natural gas from coal.

Nothing Joe Biden is doing is going to solve the climate crisis

All those folks with electric cars are going to be in a world of hurt when they need a new battery which can cost as much as $50,000
My electric car (a Chevy Bolt) cost $22,500 in 2019 not including the $3,500 tax credit I got.

Because of the fires that took out 16 of the Bolts (out of about 160,000 cars) Chevrolet recalled and replaced the batteries in all of the Bolts.

I would imagine that replacing the battery would cost me about $10,000 and is not something I would likely do (edit: and I would likely be wrong it is currently estimated at $16,000 to $17,000 but my battery is guaranteed for 8 years or 100,000 miles and that would be for the replacement in 2021 or 2022). But it probably won't be necessary before I sell it/trade it in.

Also, the infrastructure bill that passed in 2020 absolutely applies to climate change. It is the single largest investment by the US in terms of the climate crisis.
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12-22-2023 , 04:02 PM
Well another year and again the same craziness that some people think it’s an hoax ….

40 years ago I would have at least 1 feet of snow in the end October or early November.
Which of course normally should at least be 2 feet near Christmas!
Today not even 1cm of snow on the soil , 2 days away from Christmas …..

Ps: around 5 Celsius at Christmas they predict , not even 0 …
And they even predict rain after Christmas ! Wtf …
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12-22-2023 , 04:22 PM
It was 60 degrees (15C) on Christmas Day 1982 in Milwaukee, where the typical Christmas Day high is 30. In 1983, the high on Christmas was -2. Weather gonna weather. Don't worry about it.
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12-22-2023 , 04:29 PM
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Well another year and again the same craziness that some people think it’s an hoax ….

40 years ago I would have at least 1 feet of snow in the end October or early November.
Which of course normally should at least be 2 feet near Christmas!
Today not even 1cm of snow on the soil , 2 days away from Christmas …..

Ps: around 5 Celsius at Christmas they predict , not even 0 …
And they even predict rain after Christmas ! Wtf …
You do realize we are experiencing a El Nino at both the Atlantic and Pacific sides which is creating much of this weather
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12-22-2023 , 05:35 PM
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It was 60 degrees (15C) on Christmas Day 1982 in Milwaukee, where the typical Christmas Day high is 30. In 1983, the high on Christmas was -2. Weather gonna weather. Don't worry about it.
One day isn’t a trend like 72o vs AA is always bad despite u might win with it one day .
Nice trolling because I don’t think you are that stupid to be that stupid …
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12-22-2023 , 05:36 PM
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You do realize we are experiencing a El Nino at both the Atlantic and Pacific sides which is creating much of this weather
Jfc it’s been more then a decade ffs ….
U think I would care if it was only 1 year and I would need to go 40 years ago to justify my point ?
Wake the fack up !
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12-22-2023 , 05:58 PM
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Jfc it’s been more then a decade ffs ….
U think I would care if it was only 1 year and I would need to go 40 years ago to justify my point ?
Wake the fack up !
Did you have a white Christmas last year . I can remember two green Christmases in Edmonton in the past . Now if we see another one next year.....

Didnt the tyrant Justin Trudeau say without electing him your kids will not see a white Christmas
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