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01-10-2024 , 10:50 AM

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for you yes. it would mean a gigantic shitstorm for elliot

Oh noes, a giant shitstorm. Elliot's never had to deal with that before, how will he survive!

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Even with the Jessie thing?

Don't know what "the Jesse thing" is and I'm not going to waste time watching yootoobes. I straight-up don't care.

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01-10-2024 , 10:58 AM

#102

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Jussie Smollet gets MAYBE 20 seconds of time in that clip. His first name is mentioned once, and that's it.

But even more to the point, JButton, can you tell us what anybody's opinion on Jussie Smollet has to do with trans issues?

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01-10-2024 , 10:59 AM

#103

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Don't know what "the Jesse thing" is and I'm not going to waste time watching yootoobes. I straight-up don't care.

jbouton may not even know the guy's name, but that ain't stopping him from calling him out in a completely unrelated thread!

right-wingers gonna make hay out of that dumb thing for decades

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01-10-2024 , 02:02 PM

#104

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Even with the Jessie thing?

WTF could your point possibly be here? That Trolly shouldn't support Elliott Page doing whatever he wants because he once mentioned Jussie Smollett for a few seconds on a talk show?? WTF does this have to do with...anything?

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01-10-2024 , 04:58 PM

#105

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If someone has a brain problem, it makes no sense to follow them thru their insanity. You want to change your sex, go for it. But then you require society to follow you? It gets a little sketchy. Then you decide you change your mind...

Its starts to look you are unstable rather than following your true self etc.

Someone who is so stupid they would act like in the video....super suspect.

its funny how all of a sudden as poker players we are allowed bayesian process with trans people...its hilarious.

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01-10-2024 , 05:25 PM

#106

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Why should I give a **** if Elliot Page is a dumbass? Most actors are kind of ditzy.

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01-10-2024 , 06:49 PM

#107

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WTF are you talking about? Seriously. I have no idea what you're trying to say here. You think Elliott Page is stupid based on I don't know what (mentioning Jussie?), therefore Trolly shouldn't support Elliott Page doing whatever he wants? Or is it something else?

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01-11-2024 , 08:42 AM

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She has me convinced she mental illness there.

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01-11-2024 , 09:24 AM

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Even with the Jessie thing?

I don't know what falling for someone's lie about being a victim of a hate crime would have to do with changing one's mind about transitioning.

I also don't know how you would be convinced someone has mental illness from that clip, unless you mean PTSD.

Wow, that was an intense min-speech made there though - I've never seen anything like that on a talk show though. Seemed for a minute that the audience wasn't liking what they saw, but then they came around.

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01-11-2024 , 10:32 AM

#110

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She has me convinced she mental illness there.

You think everyone who falls for a scam artist is mentally ill? Aren’t you just engaging in wildly motivated reasoning here?

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01-11-2024 , 05:21 PM

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She has me convinced she mental illness there.

OK, I'll bite. Before getting into why that matters, perhaps you can explain how you are convinced he is mentally ill. What, in a <10 minute late night talk show interview, did you find so convincing?

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01-11-2024 , 06:17 PM

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Netflix has a documentary called the Books of circus about the gay porno store on Santa Monica Blvd in LA in the late 80s. I’m sure some people think it was the good old days: when gay men were arrested for kissing in public on New Year’s Eve, Ed Meese had his obscenity squad and you had to pay outrageous prices for paper pornography. It shows Larry Flynt before he was paralyzed and discusses the federal felony charges facing the owner for selling 3 porno magazines to a PA undercover agent.

Hard to believe that only 40 years ago.

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01-11-2024 , 06:28 PM

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What does "PA" mean here?

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01-11-2024 , 06:36 PM

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The people who are lazily (or ignorantly) comparing gender to sexuality or race are telling on themselves. Gender is not in the same category as sexuality, race, dominant handedness, etc. Gender is its own category.

The idea seems to be that only bigots opposed race equality, so only bigots must oppose full scale transgender celebration. It’s not this simple. Wake up.

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01-11-2024 , 06:42 PM

#115

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i think it's pretty clear only bigots oppose "full scale transgender celebration". whatever that phrase may even mean.

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01-11-2024 , 06:46 PM

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Giving or allowing the government to have power over when you give birth, what you smoke, what you watch, who you sleep with and what you do in the privacy of your bedroom is bad for society. Making racist, bigoted or homophobic government officials less intrusive and less powerful is not the societal ill you pretend it is.

It simply was your method of trying to maintain control over others since religion has lost its influence.

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01-11-2024 , 06:49 PM

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Giving or allowing the government to have power over what you watch, who you sleep with and what you do in the privacy of your bedroom is bad for society. Making racist, bigoted or homophobic government officials less intrusive and less powerful is not societal ill you pretend it is.

It’s simply your method of trying to maintain control over others since religion has lost its influence.

Are you putting words in my mouth? Otherwise, what post of mine are you referring to other than the one you’ve seem to fabricate in your mind?

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01-11-2024 , 07:51 PM

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You think everyone who falls for a scam artist is mentally ill? Aren’t you just engaging in wildly motivated reasoning here?

Well thats not how reason works at all. She convinced me she has a mental problem their yup. Problems with her emotional brain etc.

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01-11-2024 , 07:52 PM

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Do you agree with her sentiments there then?

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01-11-2024 , 07:54 PM

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Do you agree with her sentiments there then?

No idea what particular sentiments you're talking about, but before you explain that, maybe you could answer my question?

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01-11-2024 , 07:59 PM

#121

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Originally Posted by chillrob

What does "PA" mean here?

Pennsylvania. They sold it across state lines.

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01-11-2024 , 08:06 PM

#122

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Aren’t you just engaging in wildly motivated reasoning here?

This is a good question and one I wonder if you ever consider for yourself for what you believe.

I haven’t been active on this forum for long, but it is painfully clear that several posters here have spent almost no time in any meaningful introspection. It’s not good.

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01-11-2024 , 08:19 PM

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No idea what particular sentiments you're talking about, but before you explain that, maybe you could answer my question?

It seems self explanatory what seems to be showing as mental illness in ellen Paige's sentiments in that video. Its by definition. To be, I mean the content she is espousing, its psychotic.

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01-11-2024 , 08:47 PM

#124

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It seems self explanatory what seems to be showing as mental illness in ellen Paige's sentiments in that video. Its by definition. To be, I mean the content she is espousing, its psychotic.

No, it isn't self-explanatory at all, which is why I asked you to explain. And I see now you've taken it to "psychotic". So, are you able to provide any examples of this psychotic content?

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01-11-2024 , 08:58 PM

#125

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No, it isn't self-explanatory at all, which is why I asked you to explain. And I see now you've taken it to "psychotic". So, are you able to provide any examples of this psychotic content?

Do you agree with her we need to support jusse and not believing him is racist?

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