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01-07-2021 , 01:16 PM
ITT we label the Capitol selfie-takers, chair-sitters, and paper-strewers as terrorists and vilify those who would suggest giving the same moniker to the people who intentionally burned down countless locally-owned businesses and caused literally hundreds of casualties.

I can be convinced to throw terrorism charges at the people chanting USA USA USA outside the Capitol yesterday if you're willing to designate BLM a terror organization. I think I'm giving up way more than you are in this deal. Seems fair.

Or, we could go ahead and change the thread title to something less absurd.

Then again, just look at this utter destruction left behind from yesterday:



It's going to take multiple minutes to pick up all that paperwork. MINUTES! Good God.
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01-07-2021 , 01:18 PM
Sure, if you deliberately omit the pipe bombs and window smashing and the looting and handcuffs to take hostages, sure, it was just strewing papers on the floor. **** off with your bullshit.
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01-07-2021 , 01:20 PM
Inso0 apparently lives in a world where the purpose of the protest is utterly irrelevant.
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01-07-2021 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
A big part of that is due to tribalism and constant civil war.
What are other parts of it? What are other reasons that blacks haven't been able to create countries people want to live in and that the communities they establish in other countries turn into ghettos? Surely you can't believe there has never been civil wars in Europe or America or Asia?
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01-07-2021 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Inso0 apparently lives in a world where the purpose of the protest is utterly irrelevant.
Of course he cares about the purpose. He's just thinly hiding that he supports this one.
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01-07-2021 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
What are other parts of it? What are other reasons that blacks haven't been able to create countries people want to live in and that the communities they establish in other countries turn into ghettos? Surely you can't believe there has never been civil wars in Europe or America?
Colonialism.
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01-07-2021 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Of course he cares about the purpose. He's just thinly hiding that he supports this one.
Fair enough. He is pretending that we are not allowed to take the purpose of this protest into account when passing judgment on the participants.
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01-07-2021 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Colonialism.
Colonialism is a consequence of a country not having a robust self-defense system which is a consequence of other sicknesses within the country. America has suffered under economic colonialism for decades because of systemic weaknesses within America. I could go off on a long tangent about all of the reasons for that, but suffice it to say that China has long seen America as an easy target for economic colonialism. What are reasons that Africa was a ripe target for colonialism?
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01-07-2021 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
A big part of that is due to tribalism and constant civil war.

It's ironic that a guy who doesn't recognize the democratic concept of a peacful transition of power based on voting should bring that up.
ProRailbird does not deserve a reply. Mods need to ban his racist a$$ asap.

Anyone trotting out that trope about Africa while ignoring the very purposeful hundreds of years of direct and targeted dividing, propping up, giving weapons to, meddling first by European and then American and now Asian countries interested in keeping them divided and weak and fighting so they can extract resources on the cheap, is just a racist troll.

There is a big nuanced talk to be had about Africa but he is not interested in that.
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01-07-2021 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Sure, if you deliberately omit the pipe bombs and window smashing and the looting and handcuffs to take hostages, sure, it was just strewing papers on the floor. **** off with your bullshit.
**** off with your bullshit indeed. Capitol police or the secret service breaking windows to use as a porthole to shoot the scary women outside and one picture of one dude LARPing as a Call of Duty character with some plastic handcuffs.

I'll grant you the pipe bomb left at the RNC, so again I think it's only fair that we also label 100% of the people who show up to BLM "protests" as terrorists. If they weren't terrorists, they wouldn't associate themselves with a movement that results in hundreds of millions of dollars of economic damage along with multiple deaths and hundreds of other casualties.
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01-07-2021 , 01:31 PM
Ok lets say you Identify many of the folks that entered/ broke into the building.
What are the charges and what is the appropriate punishment?
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01-07-2021 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
ProRailbird does not deserve a reply. Mods need to ban his racist a$$ asap.
Give them a few minutes. I'm sure he will be banned.
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01-07-2021 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
Not to mention this is a population where a good chunk is descended directly from the founders who created the country in the first place directly through violent rebellion so it's already a latent concept which is in their blood ready to be activated by a government that fails them. Whether you agree with the rioters or not, it shouldn't be surprising that it happened.
lol@ at the sons of tories and the confederacy trying to lean on claiming their birthright as the founders and defenders of freedom. Sorry but they look just like the clowns and yahoos our ancestors on the blue team saw back in the day. What honorable cause are they fighting for this time around in your opinion?
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01-07-2021 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Ok lets say you Identify many of the folks that entered/ broke into the building.
What are the charges and what is the appropriate punishment?
Whatever tresspassing charges you'd give any other loon who shows up uninvited to the Capitol on any given Wednesday.

Maybe littering too, given the state of those offices.
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01-07-2021 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
What honorable cause are they fighting for this time around in your opinion?
Politically speaking, a rejection of democratic-republicanism and an embrace of imperialism.
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01-07-2021 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
Colonialism is a consequence of a country not having a robust self-defense system which is a consequence of other sicknesses within the country. America has suffered under economic colonialism for decades because of systemic weaknesses within America. I could go off on a long tangent about all of the reasons for that, but suffice it to say that China has long seen America as an easy target for economic colonialism. What are reasons that Africa was a ripe target for colonialism?
No.
It's called greed and malice.
You have a disease. Where did your technology come from? Your clothing? You are the supreme race so it's your destiny to be served right? White power, right? Who do you keep exploiting. Jesus I don't wanna be in your head it must be noisy in there. Get help or this won't end well. It's a disease that you have nothing else.
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01-07-2021 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
**** off with your bullshit indeed. Capitol police or the secret service breaking windows to use as a porthole to shoot the scary women outside and one picture of one dude LARPing as a Call of Duty character with some plastic handcuffs.
Incredible that you think anyone would believe your bad faith telling of what got this terrorist killed.
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01-07-2021 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Whatever tresspassing charges you'd give any other loon who shows up uninvited to the Capitol on any given Wednesday.

Maybe littering too, given the state of those offices.
These clowns weren't really there just protesting though. They thought this bs would be the start of the revolution™ and the military would join in and back them. That's been a part of the fantasy the entire time.
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01-07-2021 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Give them a few minutes. I'm sure he will be banned.
And . . . now he's banned. What a shock.
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01-07-2021 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces


Re-posted, since I apparently had to learn to post this stuff.

Video from good angle. Those in charge of security needs scrutiny after this. This is obviously completely insufficient personnel and safety precautions, endangering the lives of those officers.
I can't believe they didn't have mounted officers at the ready for crowd control. Like has DC never seen a protest get out of hand before?
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01-07-2021 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
Look, might makes right and white people in the country have learned again from black lives matter and related organizations that this is an unchangeable truth. Do I care about actions people from my tribe took that only benefited my tribe and only caused negative consequences to people outside of my tribe? No. Nobody else on the planet does either besides people who care for ideological purity over tribalism which is a minority of the world population, always has been and always will be. I don't have any concern at all for ideology. Ideologies are a mixture of strategies and at different points in time under different circumstances different ideological strategies are the most effective for your tribe. The prevalent ideologies taught in America through schools and the media are terrible and poisonous for my tribe, so I reject them entirely. That's a rational, logical decision mostly anyone throughout world history would come to.
your "tribe" is delimited, defined, bounded, and established by your ideology, so your post here is basically meaningless
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01-07-2021 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Incredible that you think anyone would believe your bad faith telling of what got this terrorist killed.


Maybe this was a good opportunity for one of those "warning shots" that the left is always calling for in cases where criminals gets killed by police.

Nope, right to the head. If that guy hadn't been an expert marksman, he might've accidentally shot one of the cops chilling behind her in the hallway.
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01-07-2021 , 02:00 PM
if orange cheeto was the one being protected in the capitol, inso would be calling for automatic rifle fire

...but it was just dems and rinos
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01-07-2021 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
I think I was pretty close.
I can almost guarantee that you are going to find terrorist groups involved in the organizing of these protests and incitement during them. Not all of those involved, that's not how how white supremacist groups, extremist libertarians or the modern Nazis operate. They operate parasitically.

Similarly, the broader group that stormed congress did more than protest. They violently revolted against government function. That is called insurrection. The severity of that charge depends of course on what the specific individual planned to do and what they actually did. To say they didn't kill anyone is somewhat disingenuous when Congress was actually evacuated as a result of what occurred. If my house was burgled by a man carrying strips and a knife, I'm not ready to declare him no threat to society just because my wife and children managed to get out before he managed to break the last door.

And yes, there were protesters in DC. People aren't really referring to those people in this discussion. They're referring to the group of men and women who stormed or incited the storming of congress because they have failed to accept the most basic of democratic institutions, the people's will.

Pointing out that there was a permit is no more noteworthy than pointing out that the Nashville car bomb had license plates.
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01-07-2021 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ProRailbird
Colonialism is a consequence of a country not having a robust self-defense system which is a consequence of other sicknesses within the country. America has suffered under economic colonialism for decades because of systemic weaknesses within America. I could go off on a long tangent about all of the reasons for that, but suffice it to say that China has long seen America as an easy target for economic colonialism. What are reasons that Africa was a ripe target for colonialism?
And here I didn't have you pegged for a big government type.
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