and that's a good thing?? For real? This country was founded on blood. You murdered the Indians then the blacks. Wtf are you talking about?
I cannot believe you're that stupid. But you obviously are. Yankee go home!

I'll report you for being an ******* too!

the downside of PR, that an extreme party's influence becomes outsized, has been completed deflated in light of the past four years

iamnotawerewolf you can feel free to engage in what word re-definition you feel appropriate to deny it was terrorism and insurrection. You can also engage in whataboutism to no end. You be you boo.

But no one else has to accept your nonsense definitions or assumptions.

The Trumptards had a clear goal of trying to stop this last and perceived final step of Biden becoming locked in as POTUS and Trump out.

They absolutely did believe it was possible as evidenced by their mass donations of cash both to Trump directly but also in bets with other individuals that Trump will be re-sworn in for 4 more years.

And they took action to disrupt what they believed was a vital Constitutional step, that if not concluded could keep the fight alive. Plan A was Pence defying the Constitution and not completing the step and when he said NO to that, they took it into their own hands.

Go read the definition of Terrorism as this was 'politically motivated' 'to intimidate both politicians and the populace' in pursuit of 'disruption that could lead to their desired change or outcome'.

Those entering came ready for action and with the type of plan that often escalates, within mob mentality to summary executions.

"blacks, jews, and leftists", eh?

nice, real nice

Though why are folks chastised when they say about yesterday the majority of the protesters were peaceful.
Will folks be upset when right wing folks start a fund to raise bail for them?

Watching the riots and you see folks with backpacks and baseball bats that came prepared to do what was done. Yes they were protesting something that just wasn't a factual matter but did have a permit for the assembly

the 7 or 9 senators that actually challenged the count are disgusting as is Trump for inciting it and his weak video to calm people down.
Ivanka tweeting their patriots as well is mind boggling

I thought the Trump movement had a chance in 2024 again but they may have destroyed that side of the right which is a good thing

And yes this was domestic terrorism

Mostly amusing myself at the thought of old Fox Junkies mounting an insurrection.

Even proud boys get old. And when you don't have healthcare .... well.

Wtf is the matter with you?

Well you seem like human garbage

Sorry to continue the narrative on shitting on the unlucky white man

Already done.

Trump incited violence at his campaign rallies and the police never so much as issued a warning.

Fascism is as American as apple pie.

I think I was pretty close.

Reported: white supremist. Scum of the earth

at first I was confused about what industry he was referring to

lmao @ the poker industry

the majority afaict were peaceful

folks are chastised because polemics are fun and empowering

A protest going sideways for a variety of reasons is a lot different than showing up with the intent to cause mayhem(prob. why basically the first word in that defn is calculated). People weren't there for a be-in dudes were armed and looking to kidnap politicians etc. trump and the gang have been pushing for this for weeks now and his supporters have been threatening violence the entire time.

They actually had enough riot police to stop a breech because BLM was an actual threat and would have been a problem if that's the direction it took (although the odds were against that happening).

These dummies are just noise. Sure the police underestimated them but in the end they all just picked up and left when they were told to. Children throwing a tantrum. No watering the tree of liberty with their blood....lol.

You don't have to like my point of view but it's the point of view that explains why the riots yesterday happened. It might be too far outside the paradigm of polite discussion for you to actually consider, but restricting discussion to topics and perspectives that a really narrow slice of the population considers to be acceptable is how things happen like a mob of people marching into the capitol building and taking control of it happens without anyone seeing it coming.

There can be reasons for police or those defending the politicians to draw lines that any one crossing, armed or NOT, will get shot.

If for example this hallway was the last thing between the surging mob and a door, behind which, was many of the Politicians and the police/security would be over run if the hall got infiltrated leaving the politicians to the mercy of the mob, then shooting the first person entering the Hall, to let them know this is not a hall that will be taken without a lot of blood being shed, is appropriate.

That may sound callous and I do think this would be an absolute last resort and only in the most extreme circumstances, but what you cannot have is the hall way over run, the security or police simply saying 'we have lost contain, good luck to you politicians behind the door. Brace yourselves as they will be getting in', is not an acceptable allowance.


What I would like to see first, if given time, is the police/security firing warning shots to let the protestors know what is around the corner if they keep coming. But if they do not have time and the mob push is on, then certainly it can be justified.

yeah there was definitely a good amount apparently attempted thuggery

seems like both happened, with the former a distinct minority based on photos

I shoudlnt even engage with you since you seem sick. But in case you are 12. White people have stolen the land of the Indians then murdered them. It's called colonism. Look it up! Black people were obducted and murdered by the millions. Then used as slaves. For centuries you have abused and exploited them.

this

I agree that a lot of the people were there because they were tired of being told not to hate on blacks and jews.

lol @ "taking control of" the capitol being a description of what happened


at best, they briefly occupied parts of the building and engaged in light looting

Trump insurrections sure bring out the best posters out from out of the woodwork.

A big part of that is due to tribalism and constant civil war.

It's ironic that a guy who doesn't recognize the democratic concept of a peacful transition of power based on voting should bring that up.

Look, might makes right and white people in the country have learned again from black lives matter and related organizations that this is an unchangeable truth. Do I care about actions people from my tribe took that only benefited my tribe and only caused negative consequences to people outside of my tribe? No. Nobody else on the planet does either besides people who care for ideological purity over tribalism which is a minority of the world population, always has been and always will be. I don't have any concern at all for ideology. Ideologies are a mixture of strategies and at different points in time under different circumstances different ideological strategies are the most effective for your tribe. The prevalent ideologies taught in America through schools and the media are terrible and poisonous for my tribe, so I reject them entirely. That's a rational, logical decision mostly anyone throughout world history would come to.