There are no insanely conservative cities in the country. It’s not media, it’s the stuff actual conservative politicians say. A sane one who ignores culture war or election trutherism will be marginalized at best, primaries at worst.

Conservative politicians. You just said it. Politicians are all scum if you haven’t noticed. So go ahead and believe that conservative politicians speak for every conservative in this country. Believe what you want to believe.

Conservative voters aren't much better.

I give up. You win. Congrats. I’m done with this convo, so you’ll have to spread your hate elsewhere. Good night.

I care about this a lot

https://www.scribd.com/document/578483989/1776-Returns

I forgot the word “most” before people. Sorry.

It is not total BS and you would NEVER take a bet it is, based on what we can post.

I offer a harmless Av bet if you are up for. We go video segment for video segment until one of us taps out.

You on?


Some freebies.

2024 is a longg away. things hopefully won t be same as now. but if election was this November, wouldn't put it past me at all if trump would be even to slight fav. feel like dems only have that jan 6 to really shove down the average voters throat which for the voters that will decide, prllly care way more about curent economics. assuming same inflation and whatnot sticks for a few more months (hope it doesn't)

If non-orderly and non-peaceful transition of power is normalized, it pretty much goes without saying that US democracy and free elections are in extreme danger.

The timeline of the events, the maps that show the dangers as the events unfolded and the revelations (and past knowledge) regarding behavior of involved parties adds up to quite the story. We're also seeing how extremists have gotten access to the upper echelons of political power to a level that is patently absurd. Leadership elements of groups like the Oathkeepers seem to be quite used to texting, hanging out with and doing gigs for government officials, political operatives and federal politicians.

Of course, a pressed economy and unhappiness with ineffective politicians can matter more at the ballot box. It would hardly be the first time that such things sink a political system.

And no, it isn't the norm that all the parties and institutions who oppose such threats to a government will magically come together. That's more the romanticized version, written in memoirs when things turned out well, because it is generally embarrassing to admit that you were busy squabbling about irrelevant details as the state crumbled around you.

I'm afraid stuff like this is going to become the norm - local officials refusing to certify elections when the results aren't to their liking.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=14285c3074db

No what I am saying is if you take the total time Trump spoke in press conferences and interviews over the amount of time Biden spoke the gaffe ratio would be worse for Biden

As an example. If trump speaks for 20 hours and you get 3 gaffes and Biden speaks for 5 minutes and you get two gaffes. Please do not tell me Trump is worse

Any leader will have those odd moments but damn Biden does not even do Whitehouse briefings like Trump did.

Let me repeat I hope neither runs and like Elon Musk I hope its Desantis

Pretty much agree with everything you said here.

Oh noes, Biden has his press secretary do press briefings like any normal president, it’s inexcusable.

Not saying it is or it isn't. Just saying that is why there could be a few more gaffes from Trump compared to Biden. The amount of time they are in front of the camera cannot be compared.

Your boy Trump told you to drink aquarium cleaner and shine your insides with UV light, spare me this “gaffe” nonsense.

Biden eked out a win over Dementia Ronny on the first popular vote.

51.31% to 50.75%

I don't think an ability to understand what's going on around you is an important attribute for their leader according to the American voters.

It still doesn't negate the fact that Biden gaffes are far, far more frequent than Trump gaffes.

lol remember when Spicer flat-out lied to you in your face about crowd sizes? It was four years of patent bullshit and you still carry water for the people who think so little of you.

Not sure if you have noticed or not, but most politicians if not all do not care about you. Doesn't matter if they have the D or the R next to their name.

But Biden has some actual content between gaffes.

Trump just talks nonsense and plays on fire trucks.
Once he read the Bible. Upside down.

Then he ordered the US military to attack US civilians on US soil.

God likes a guy who does whatever the hell he pleases I guess.

Both have their faults. Biden claims to be a catholic and then supports killing babies.

i guess if you don't consider all the ridiculous unintelligent things trump said as "gaffes" then you they may be close..

like is that stuff about how you have to flush your toilet 3 or 4 times a "gaffe" or is that just considered dementia?

I don't believe I've ever heard Biden call for the killing of babies.

But the people Biden represent, by quite a large margin, don't want the government to impose itself on personal matters like abortion, birth control and masturbation.

The vast majority of Americans are perfectly happy with the concept of not deploying troops against citizens who are exercising their first amendment right of free speech.

But at least you're honest and admit you don't value our democratic institutions and want a fascistic theocracy to replace it.

You have a pretty good chance too. For some reason fat old white guys really, really don't like democracy.

Being pro-choice isn’t a “gaffe,” champ. Just like carping for a fascist vulgarian isn’t a gaffe, that’s a deliberate choice.