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05-24-2020 , 01:18 PM
From a Labour point of view, this is, in a way and up to a point, good.



One thing narcissists can't do is 'read the room', because they can't imagine any mind different from their own, and Johnson -- who has been getting away with it for a long time -- may now have blown it.
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05-24-2020 , 01:27 PM
Either that or Cummings' visit to No.10 earlier was to remind bojo of who got him to where he is today. Classic Dom.

Bojo is so utterly useless, even the die hard tories are struggling to defend him now.
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05-24-2020 , 01:46 PM
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This must be distressing and I'm sorry to hear about her condition.

Hopefully Cummings will soon be an ex-SPAD. It will be interesting to see who Johnson appoints as replacement puppet master given Cumming's oft-repeated views of journalists.
You would be correct if you imagine that my anger at Johnson and Cummings is thermonuclear and in the megaton range. And I'm not unusual. Hordes of people have been trying to do the right thing in difficult circumstances (like the bloke who hasn't been able to visit his eight-year-old daughter who's in hospital for cancer treatment, and everyone who's worried about frail elderly parents, which is a hell of a lot of people), and Johnson just spat on all that. He's committing political hara-kiri and he doesn't even know it.

The worst thing will be if people take Johnson's words as a licence to break the rules, because then the disease will peak again and thousands will die. But I'm not sure people are that stupid.

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05-24-2020 , 02:05 PM
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This lot are shameless.
I hope this isn't a sudden realisation.
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05-24-2020 , 03:39 PM
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I hope this isn't a sudden realisation.
No, more confirmation really. It is going to be an interesting test of how long they can brazen it out for. It sounds like the press have more Cummings lockdown trip news later this week.
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05-24-2020 , 04:23 PM
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The worst thing will be if people take Johnson's words as a licence to break the rules, because then the disease will peak again and thousands will die. But I'm not sure people are that stupid.
I don't think it's the sensible, reasonable people who will be the problem. It's the small but growing group who are either already breaking lockdown or want to but who comply because of the social/police pushback. They will emboldened to go further and faster.

That's one of the reasons the police are so annoyed. They are at the sharp end of this and know it makes it much harder to persuade those sort of people to comply.
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05-24-2020 , 04:53 PM
I gotta say I feel for you guys. Say what you want about the SNP, Sturgeon has been pretty consistent and competent throughout this. Despite being repeatedly accused of trying to undermine johnson. As if that's a bad thing, given what's been happening.
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05-24-2020 , 04:56 PM
I mean, the fact that #lockdownisoverthanksdom is trending on twitter is probably not a good sign for the coming weeks dan saff.
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05-24-2020 , 05:14 PM
First rule of politics is dont let people see behind the curtain.
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05-24-2020 , 05:36 PM
When JK Rowling calls someone a ****weasel you know they're a ****.
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05-24-2020 , 06:25 PM
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I gotta say I feel for you guys. Say what you want about the SNP, Sturgeon has been pretty consistent and competent throughout this. Despite being repeatedly accused of trying to undermine johnson. As if that's a bad thing, given what's been happening.
I expect DC wont survive long but otherwise I think this is far more serious than has been discussed so far That's because boris either loses cummings or has to throw out red meat on another even bigger issue - and that will be brexit which is bubbling along quietly but dangerously at the moment.

The risk of jingoistic fervour is rising dramatically. Especially given the rest of the tory party who are not in any way better than boris/cummings - chief opposition to Cummings is Steve Baker ffs. We're stuck with these people for years and they have a huge majority with a ready to go issue to unite on.
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05-25-2020 , 06:33 AM
If the whole Cummings' kid is autistic thing is accurate then it's possibly mitigating slightly, but when the Mail and grauniad agree on something you've got to sack him

Then Starmer can show consistency and remove the whip from Kinnock etc
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05-25-2020 , 08:08 AM
Fail to see what the difference between Cummings and Johnson going to second homes to self-isolate.

Anyway, Cummings is to face the media directly later in what could be the TV event of the year.
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05-25-2020 , 08:08 AM
Apparently DC is giving a press conference and taking questions later today!!!

Extraordinary

edit slow pony

This could compete with prince andy for car crash interview of the century
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05-25-2020 , 08:45 AM
Doctor says he'll resign if Cummings doesn't
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05-25-2020 , 09:10 AM
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If the whole Cummings' kid is autistic thing is accurate then it's possibly mitigating slightly, but when the Mail and grauniad agree on something you've got to sack him



Then Starmer can show consistency and remove the whip from Kinnock etc
I believe he will be ducking that on the basis that he wasn't in charge when Kinnock breached lockdown and Kinnock didn't write the lockdown policy.
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05-25-2020 , 11:09 AM
The laws are for little people. Some of us have good judgment and know when they can be ignored.
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05-25-2020 , 11:24 AM
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If the whole Cummings' kid is autistic thing is accurate then it's possibly mitigating slightly, but when the Mail and grauniad agree on something you've got to sack him

Then Starmer can show consistency and remove the whip from Kinnock etc
Is this true though? I'm not sure how (un)reliable this article and tweet are but both claim the autism thing isn't true.

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/...-it-isnt-true/


Furthermore a poster here has a terminally ill mother. I haven't been able to visit my mother, nor could I go to my cousin's funeral and my partner can't go home to visit her elderly parents due to flight restrictions. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, if we all have to make sacrifices, then Cummings should too. As I said earlier it seems that rules are for the little people, but when a politician breaks them he acts legally responsibly and with integrity. If the autism thing is false then Cummings is not only really low but seems to have little respect for his child, using him to lie and having o problem claiming a false disability for him.

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05-25-2020 , 11:27 AM
Does he really think he's going to take to the podium and somehow charm the nation? If so, he's more arrogant than I thought.
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05-25-2020 , 11:27 AM
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Fail to see what the difference between Cummings and Johnson going to second homes to self-isolate.

Anyway, Cummings is to face the media directly later in what could be the TV event of the year.
Indeed, boris should probably go too.
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05-25-2020 , 11:37 AM
Its the fault of the media reports saying he supported herd immunity.

**** off.
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05-25-2020 , 11:40 AM
Hahaha he is more arrogant than I thought. What a ****weasel.
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05-25-2020 , 11:43 AM
I can't believe this total bullshit. Hahahaha. He's gone.
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05-25-2020 , 11:53 AM
THIS is the brexit mastermind? Christ Almighty.
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05-25-2020 , 11:56 AM
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I believe he will be ducking that on the basis that he wasn't in charge when Kinnock breached lockdown and Kinnock didn't write the lockdown policy.
I don't see how that would be any different to if he were to, say, uncover some antisemitic tweet by one of his MP's made before he went to office, I really don't think "Corbyn in charge then, nothing to see here" would really work
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