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Today , 05:39 PM
in light of the fact that the new uk govt has put an end to the war in gaza, i can confirm that i was wrong about the supposed irrelevance of your green party vote
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Today , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
It must be 20 years ago or so that I posted about how the housing crises would lead to a rise in racism/etc. Then that it was a big factor in brexit. It's so bad now that it's front page (well opinion page anyway).

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...housing-crisis
I mean i know you keep saying this and i believe you are fully in good faith to claim this , but using the normal definition of populism you guys typically use (say AFD in germany is populist, movimento 5 stelle in italy, Le Pen in france and so on), populism systematically is stronger (ie , they get more votes) in places where houses cost *less* than the national average.

AFD is stronger in eastern germany, Le pen is stronger in rural areas, movimento 5 stelle is stronger in souther italy and so on.

Ofc housing is a hell of a problem in UK right now btw, i am not claiming it isn't, i am just claiming politics isn't monovariate and you should find the justifications for populism elsewhere completly, even if housing is a big problem which would be nice to solve regardless of it's (lack of) implications regarding populism.
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Today , 05:48 PM
Not remotely suggesting politcs is monovariate
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Today , 05:51 PM
rayner said something about a big social housing drive in a speech today

i've read opinion pieces from people who know a thing or two about putting bricks on top of each other. they said that the target of 1.5m homes over the parliament is basically unachievable without some massive push. which is quite worrying as i dont think 1.5m in 5 years really touches the sides of the problem.
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Today , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
in light of the fact that the new uk govt has put an end to the war in gaza, i can confirm that i was wrong about the supposed irrelevance of your green party vote
It was this that says you dont think we're irrelevent

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its bc they dont want a chunk of their coalition running off with corbyn's wacky band of jew hating free broadband dispensers
You're saying they make decisions based on us (silly description of us aside).

That makes us relevant.
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Today , 05:55 PM
my point is that it's an empty gesture b/c israel has plenty of weapons suppliers online, and that the only upshot is that it makes you and people like you feel good

i think that if iran and its playthings were about to achieve their stated aim of the destruction of israel and the forced deportation and/or extermination of its jewish inhabitants, then labour would be sending whatever weapons required to prevent it
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Today , 05:59 PM
Ending the financial support for a war run by a state governed by genocidally psychotic racist gangster criminals hellbent on a Holodomor doesn't need any extra benefits to make it worthwhile.
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Today , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
my point is that it's an empty gesture b/c israel has plenty of weapons suppliers online, and that the only upshot is that it makes you and people like you feel good

i think that if iran and its playthings were about to achieve their stated aim of the destruction of israel and the forced deportation and/or extermination of its jewish inhabitants, then labour would be sending whatever weapons required to prevent it
We're not going to disagree about the uk's influence on this being almost entirely minimal

If it helps, nothing about this makes me feel good. I dont want up supporting netanyahu actions (which you know my views on)
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Today , 06:11 PM
This shat started with egregious Blairite cronyism, was amplified by Johnson's amoral corruption and now here we are and it's all completely normal


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Today , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
We're not going to disagree about the uk's influence on this being almost entirely minimal

If it helps, nothing about this makes me feel good. I dont want up supporting netanyahu actions (which you know my views on)
the UK has significant influence but the cited actions (not selling some stuff anymore) don't matter much.

what labour decides to do wrt ICC rulings will be very important and influential though, Tories were contesting jurisdiction, labour seems to be accepting ICC rulings without contesting them, we'll see soon enough
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Today , 07:11 PM
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