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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
It doesn't matter if I am in the Bernie sphere or not. I am aware that Bernie turns off a lot of people on both sides.
With that being said, if you are trying to explain that Bernie lost the 2016 & 2020 noms because he simply did not have the votes is beyond naive IMO.
It's not just the votes because yeah the margin was simply too great. It was picking up the votes, and momentum, of candidates who had fallen. I know Bernie supporters don't agree that Berniebros lost the election for HRC (I sure as hell don't), but the fact is that a large chunk of Dem voters felt that way. They're wrong, but they are also voters. 2019 saw a softer, gentler Bernie, however the attacks online, where more and more people are getting information these days, continued to amplify.
I know you know what happened with the endorsements and the fallen candidates publicly speaking out on the harassment so I won't go there, but I think it goes even deeper than that. I feel like the Paul D and Crossnerd in the bernie thread nailed it pretty perfectly, and they were ridiculed for it.