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09-22-2019 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Lol you have some serious issues.
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09-22-2019 , 04:37 PM
One can make an array of all the possible and plausible available behaviors which express an anti fascist influence. And, then make two arrays form that of what particular behaviors qualify as violent and which qualify as nonviolent. Compare them and one can calculate exactly how dangerous and violent antifascism is.... based on early guess work imagining this bullshit, antifa is 35.0 percent violent. 30 percent self defense, 5 percent punching Nazis. I suppose if you practice between zero and five* tolerance, you might just call antifa violent. Goonish, but using this stuff I’ve made up for some context, it makes sense.

Intolerant people are unlike antifascism. As fascism relies on intolerance, ergo anti-fascism relies on some tolerance.

*zero to five tolerance out of a hundred.
09-22-2019 , 05:26 PM


The right is reduced to pure gaslighting propaganda at this point.

Keep insisting the Nazis were Left.

Keep pumping Antifa when right-wingers have all the guns and goons and are literally out there killing people with cars and assault rifles.

Black is white and up is down.
09-22-2019 , 07:10 PM
That's one of the dumbest things ever. And he's not even ratioed.
09-22-2019 , 07:13 PM
It's not dumb if it hits its intended audience.
09-22-2019 , 07:41 PM
Delicate snowflake-type person targeted by a goonish fascist with a false association with German nazis narrative.
09-22-2019 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The only way you could be legitimately worried about antifa is if you identify with the proud boys and their ilk - which obviously some itt do.

Right wingers want to disavow/ignore/refuse to acknowledge all the violence committed by their shock troops, but then absolutely lose their **** when retaliatory violence occurs.

It needs to be this way for them to gain the benefit of being on the side with all the guns and 99% of the goons. They don't want more monkey wrenches. Therefore somehow antifa is much scarier than those heavily armed militias hanging out in the middle of the action in Charlottesville.
I don't need to be gay to be concerned about gay people being beaten up for having "wrong thoughts" or being a "propagandist". I don't need to be asian to be concerned about them being beaten up for posting stuff on twitter that some people don't like. When Heather Heyer was killed, I didn't search for opposition research on her, because that is a psychotic sociopathic thing to do. I don't care if she hated trump, that was a tragic death.
09-22-2019 , 08:43 PM
You also don't need to be Jewish to be really concerned about people with torches marching around chanting "Jews will not replace us".
09-22-2019 , 09:41 PM
So the intellectual brain trust of the right is literally harassing a teenage girl on Twitter. Real alpha male lobster ****, that's for sure.
09-22-2019 , 11:03 PM
dumb right wingers going out of their way to hold the bag for the confirmed liar propagandist that routinely edits and fakes videos to grift them will never not be funny to me.
09-23-2019 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
I don't need to be gay to be concerned about gay people being beaten up for having "wrong thoughts" or being a "propagandist". I don't need to be asian to be concerned about them being beaten up for posting stuff on twitter that some people don't like. When Heather Heyer was killed, I didn't search for opposition research on her, because that is a psychotic sociopathic thing to do. I don't care if she hated trump, that was a tragic death.
I'm not talking about Ngo being beaten up. If you go back and read the thread, I'm on record as saying that anyone who assaulted him should be prosecuted.

I'm talking about JV continuing to present him as some kind of journalist that we should believe or pay attention to wrt to antifa or anything else. He's been exposed as a liar and a fraud. Are we going to pretend Dinesh D'Souza is a journalist as well?
09-23-2019 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


The right is reduced to pure gaslighting propaganda at this point.

Keep insisting the Nazis were Left.

Keep pumping Antifa when right-wingers have all the guns and goons and are literally out there killing people with cars and assault rifles.

Black is white and up is down.
09-23-2019 , 07:09 AM
Wasn't that the guy who argued that there was no Republican slave-owners in 1860, and then when shown evidence from 1861 said it didn't count because that wasn't 1860?

That isn't really the kind of person that should be teaching anyone history. Not in the sense that actual historians do not make errors, more that actual historians don't treat their errors like prized possessions.
09-23-2019 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I'm not talking about Ngo being beaten up. If you go back and read the thread, I'm on record as saying that anyone who assaulted him should be prosecuted.

I'm talking about JV continuing to present him as some kind of journalist that we should believe or pay attention to wrt to antifa or anything else. He's been exposed as a liar and a fraud. Are we going to pretend Dinesh D'Souza is a journalist as well?
Yeah, someone got beat up on the streets and you are looking through the internet and posting opposition research on them. I'd say if you do that, you have mental issues and should seek help.

I'd consider Dinesh a filmmaker and activist. I'd consider Andy a journalist and a activist. I'd consider Rachael Maddow and Brian Stelter to be journalists and activists as well. Even though they are also heavily involved in gaslighting.
09-23-2019 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
dumb right wingers going out of their way to hold the bag for the confirmed liar propagandist that routinely edits and fakes videos to grift them will never not be funny to me.
Violent left wingers going out of their way to post opposition research and search a guys twitter posts who got beat up to say that him being assaulted isn't a big deal, will never not be psychotic and a sign they should seek help to me.
09-23-2019 , 05:53 PM
What kind of journalism is falsely associating a Swedish teenager with German nazis? What kind of journalism reports on that kind of journalism?
09-23-2019 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


The right is reduced to pure gaslighting propaganda at this point.

Keep insisting the Nazis were Left.

Keep pumping Antifa when right-wingers have all the guns and goons and are literally out there killing people with cars and assault rifles.

Black is white and up is down.
"Dictionary
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Na·zi
/ˈnätsē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
HISTORICAL
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
adjective
of or concerning the Nazis or Nazism."

Not sure if you are gaslighting, or just are not a smart guy.
09-23-2019 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
Yeah, someone got beat up on the streets and you are looking through the internet and posting opposition research on them. I'd say if you do that, you have mental issues and should seek help.

I'd consider Dinesh a filmmaker and activist. I'd consider Andy a journalist and a activist. I'd consider Rachael Maddow and Brian Stelter to be journalists and activists as well. Even though they are also heavily involved in gaslighting.
jsmith sending more postcard greetings from la la land.

Think he feels cool stanning hard core for hate slinging extremists? Yeah, I think he feels real good about it. Thinks he pro-level trolling with the gaslight accusation IN a gaslighting post. HA HA next level'd 'em bruh!
09-23-2019 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Look how ****ing cool you are supporting that hate. YOU ROCK UBER DUDE.
What? How am I supporting hate? I googled Nazi and posted the definition. The nazis were socialists. That is left wing. I called out suzzers gaslighting.
09-23-2019 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
What? How am I supporting hate? I googled Nazi and posted the definition. The nazis were socialists. That is left wing. I called out suzzers gaslighting.
This gentleman is just here for the intellectually honest discourse, stop gaslighting him guys ffs
09-23-2019 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
"Dictionary
Search for a word
Na·zi
/ˈnätsē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
HISTORICAL
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
adjective
of or concerning the Nazis or Nazism."

Not sure if you are gaslighting, or just are not a smart guy.
The People's Republic of North Korea is not a Republic
09-23-2019 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
What? How am I supporting hate? I googled Nazi and posted the definition. The nazis were socialists. That is left wing. I called out suzzers gaslighting.
As Hitler explained in his own words, they took the name as a protest against the leftist Marxist movements in the 20s. But who cares about that? Dictionary arguments are typically fairly ignorant and often a convenient way to ignore history. The Nazis built their first concentration camps to jail leftist politicians, their supporters and pretty much anyone who identified as a socialist in the traditional manner. This seems weird if they were socialists in the sense that the word was typically used, wouldn't you say?

But ignoring that, your argument is dangerous and stupid for two reasons.

The first one is simple, it masks the political foundation for Nazi extremism, namely its roots in nationalist tendencies, glorification of authority and portraying functional democracy as weak.

The second reason is more subtle. Your ill-reasoned argument actually obfuscates the actual communist history in pre-WW2 Germany, which is anything but an heroic tale. The communists in Germany had ran their own equivalent to the Nazi SA, paramilitary thugs that terrorized political opponents and engaged in terrorism. They were, like the Nazis, ideologically opposed to democracy and would more than likely have gone down the same route of persecuting people on the other side of the political spectrum had they ever attained power.
09-23-2019 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
dumb right wingers going out of their way to hold the bag for the confirmed liar propagandist that routinely edits and fakes videos to grift them will never not be funny to me.
Left wingers going out of there way to hold the bag for masked cowards, who mob attack lone individuals, has some ongoing amusement value too. Entirely predictable though, and "sad" is probably a more appropriate emotion.

And of course the irony of a group, promoting themselves as anti-fascist, carrying out copybook fascist acts is pretty damn amusing to behold.
09-23-2019 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The People's Republic of North Korea is not a Republic
United States of America is not united.
09-23-2019 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
Left wingers going out of there way to hold the bag for masked cowards, who mob attack lone individuals, has some ongoing amusement value too. Entirely predictable though, and "sad" is probably a more appropriate emotion.

And of course the irony of a group, promoting themselves as anti-fascist, carrying out copybook fascist acts is pretty damn amusing to behold.
Do you disagree or agree with Slighted?

      
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