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08-09-2019 , 08:52 PM

#776

itshotinvegas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

LOL. Oh expert of words and diviner of meanings, would you please tell me what are the nouns in the sentence of whom or what is to be "confronted" "head on?"

Are you saying Warren was being ambiguous on purpose?

08-09-2019 , 08:52 PM

#777

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Yes, I do. Essentially calling white cops murderers and racist while explicitly using a call action to stop them head on. If she was not calling white cops racist and murderers, there would not be an issue that needs to be addressed. Trump says immigrants are murders and rapist, while explicitly using a call to action to stop them.

Some more:

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Trump called President Barack Obama "the founder of ISIS" at a rally in Florida in early August. "ISIS is honoring President Obama," he said. "He is the founder of ISIS."
"And, I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton," the Republican nominee added.

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Speaking about Hillary Clinton's position on gun control, Trump made what appeared to be a joke about assassinating her. He told supporters there was nothing they could do to stop her from taking guns away if she gets her pick of Supreme Court judges. "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know," he said.

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Maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing," Trump said on the Fox News Channel. "And this was a very obnoxious guy who was a troublemaker who was looking to make trouble."

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They're going to build a plant and illegals are going drive those cars right over the border ... And they'll probably end up stealing the cars," Trump said in October.

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When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said. "They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

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You know what I wanted to. I wanted to hit a couple of those speakers so hard. I would have hit them. No, no. I was going to hit them, I was all set and then I got a call from a highly respected governor...I was gonna hit one guy in particular, a very little guy. I was gonna hit this guy so hard his head would spin and he wouldn’t know what the hell happened...I was going to hit a number of those speakers so hard their heads would spin, they’d never recover. And that’s what I did with a lot—that’s why I still don’t have certain people endorsing me: They still haven’t recovered."

So similar.

08-09-2019 , 09:02 PM

#778

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Thanks for providing the quote that shows my accurate characterization.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Are you saying Warren was being ambiguous on purpose?

Answer the question.

08-09-2019 , 09:10 PM

#779

itshotinvegas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Thanks for providing the quote that shows my accurate characterization.

Answer the question.

Not until you answer this:

How do you draw a conclusion from gibberish?

08-09-2019 , 09:11 PM

#780

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I think the reason he was shot was becasue he assaulted the person who shot him.

When did Brown assault Wilson?

08-09-2019 , 09:12 PM

#781

itshotinvegas

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

When did Brown assault Wilson?

Here:

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The physical evidence establishes that Wilson shot Brown once in the hand, at close range, while Wilson sat in his police SUV, struggling with Brown for control of Wilson’s gun.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...el_brown_1.pdf

08-09-2019 , 09:13 PM

#782

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Not until you answer this:

How do you draw a conclusion from gibberish?

I didn't, other than concluding that your reasoning was gibberish.

08-09-2019 , 09:17 PM

#783

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

I didn't, other than concluding that your reasoning was gibberish.

I disagree. We are at an impasse. I should not have responded to you this evening, but it was such a softball. My apologies. Until you adequately address my issue with you in the other thread, there can be no reasonable discourse between us.

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 08-09-2019 at 09:22 PM. Reason: You know I don't play 20 questions and will be stubborn after the second or third one, its best we just don't engage

08-09-2019 , 09:26 PM

#784

6ix

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

Desperate posts like that are why your credibility is nil.

tbh this one seems too insidiously clever for him to have thought up himself

08-09-2019 , 09:46 PM

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Oh, I see. So then Wilson killed Brown while Brown was assaulting him in Wilson’s car?

08-09-2019 , 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Oh, I see. So then Wilson killed Brown while Brown was assaulting him in Wilson’s car?

I just answered your question dude.

08-09-2019 , 09:50 PM

#787

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p.s.

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Originally Posted by 6ix

tbh this one seems too insidiously clever for him to have thought up himself

As in:

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The shot that entered the top of his skull caused the fatal injury.[9] Brown could have survived the first bullet wounds, but the bullet that entered the top of his head resulted in a fatal injury.[93]

Seems like a pretty nasty joke, and I'm not even averse to nasty jokes.

I guarantee that if you look in the dank recesses you'll find some earlier thing like 'head on huh how'd that work out for mike brown top kek'.

Last edited by 6ix; 08-09-2019 at 09:59 PM.

08-09-2019 , 09:53 PM

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I mean, Brown assaulted the Wilson and tried to get his gun, then started to leave, then made a move back toward Wilson. Saying the assault was not a significant reason Brown got shot/killed is not being reasonable.

And this has nothing to do with Warren calling white cops racist and murderers.

08-09-2019 , 10:20 PM

#789

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Who is being unreasonable? “Started to leave”? How about you tell me how far away Brown was when he “made a move back to Wilson?

You see, I have to drag this stuff out of you because you are not being reasonable in your characterization, at all. You didn’t say “significant factor” either. You said you think the reason he was shot was because he assaulted the person who shot him. That is DEFINITELY not a reasonable description of what happened between the two. So I have to take you step by step.

08-09-2019 , 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

A guy tries to take your weapon, then makes a move back toward you....

I honesty do not understand how you do not find the assault the reason he was shot. If I was being precise, fear of being assaulted again in attempt to get the weapon, within a short period of time. That seems like it's splitting hairs.

Again, this has nothing to do with Warren essentially calling white cops racist murderers.

08-09-2019 , 10:54 PM

#791

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

A white cop

08-09-2019 , 11:40 PM

#792

6ix

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

08-10-2019 , 03:43 AM

#793

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

I should have been more clear. That’s my opinion based on my personal experiences.

I consider “serious” prejudice to be something that is significant enough to drive a behavioral change (although the language wasn’t really carefully considered).

Got it. I think we're on the same page, then.

08-10-2019 , 04:01 AM

#794

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Quote:

Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

...

I am in no way, shape or form a fan of Ms. Warren, but how in the name of Ned can what Ms. Warren said be interpreted as a call to violence???????

08-10-2019 , 06:00 AM

#795

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Originally Posted by lagtight

I am in no way, shape or form a fan of Ms. Warren, but how in the name of Ned can what Ms. Warren said be interpreted as a call to violence???????

Some people get carried away trying to prove that the left and the right are just as bad as each other in every way.

08-10-2019 , 11:43 AM

#796

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

I am in no way, shape or form a fan of Ms. Warren, but how in the name of Ned can what Ms. Warren said be interpreted as a call to violence???????

Yo, she said we must "confront" (something, pay no attention to the nouns) "head on." Can't you see that's calling white police officers at large murderers?

08-10-2019 , 12:05 PM

#797

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

How is Warren proposing that these cops be stopped?

Quote:

Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

head on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

LOL. Oh expert of words and diviner of meanings, would you please tell me what are the nouns in the sentence of whom or what is to be "confronted" "head on?"

itshotinvegas, the answer is systemic racism and police violence, not police.

08-10-2019 , 12:32 PM

#798

MrWookie

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Most technically, the answers are "racism" and "violence". You added some adjectives that aren't nouns.

08-10-2019 , 02:44 PM

#799

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I wonder if Elizabeth Warren has anything to say about the race of the officers with Sacramento guy who was gunned down in his backyard or the guy who was with his girlfriend and her kid in the car and was shot?

I wonder what was different in those cases? Oh yeah, the police officers weren't white, so the race baiting media and politicians didn't even make race an issue

This is straight race baiting on WArren's part and is disgusting, disgraceful behavior

08-10-2019 , 02:46 PM

#800

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This belongs in the Luckbox versus the media thread probably, but I love it how every time it was a white officer this is mentioned prominently over and over and over, normally included with big pictures of him/her.

But if it isn't a white officer (which is actually a big % of the time) race is rarely brought up at all.

Divide and rule.

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