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Anti Semistism growing with the left? Anti Semistism growing with the left?

08-01-2019 , 09:23 PM
He reinstates the Iran nuclear deal.

That is positive action.
08-01-2019 , 09:24 PM
Only negative is against the Jews.

point proven.
08-01-2019 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
He reinstates the Iran nuclear deal.

That is positive action.
It's not, but I guess I can't argue against someone who just obstinately repeats his own vapid opinion as fact.
08-01-2019 , 09:30 PM
Reinstating the Iran nuclear deal is pro Iran.

We can argue the merits of the agreement, but reinstating an agreement that Iran and Obama made is pro Iran.

It is not a negative action.

May be the best course, it may not be. The current administration's approach to Iran is negative.
08-01-2019 , 09:32 PM
But, the only nation that would get SPECIFIC negative consequences, not put in place by Trump or Obama, under Mayor Pete's speech, is Israel.
08-01-2019 , 09:35 PM
No question the Republicans are anti-Islam and pro Israel.

Democrats have taken the opposite position.

Borders on anti Semitism.
08-01-2019 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Reinstating the Iran nuclear deal is pro Iran.

We can argue the merits of the agreement, but reinstating an agreement that Iran and Obama made is pro Iran.

It is not a negative action.

May be the best course, it may not be. The current administration's approach to Iran is negative.
The Iran deal prevents the Iranian scenario we fear most. Trump's approach is hastening it.

And regardless, your point is stupid, and even if that really is the one negative thing on that list, it's not proven. That one "negative" policy proposal rose to a journalist's estimation of specificity to qualify for a list but numerous other "negative" priorities and aims about other countries did not is not at all conducive to your argument that Pete singled out Israel. He plainly didn't single out Israel as the one big negative country.
08-01-2019 , 09:43 PM
Bollocks. My point is accurate. Anti Israel is the left's view and the media's portrayal.

Anti Israel equal anti Semitism? We shall see.
08-01-2019 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Bollocks. My point is accurate. Anti Israel is the left's view and the media's portrayal.

Anti Israel equal anti Semitism? We shall see.
Bull****. Your claim:

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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Israel was the only nation he proposed negative consequences of in his foreign policy roll out.
Pete clearly and unambiguously singled out Russia, North Korea, China, and (at least in my opinion) Iran for negative consequences before he even mentioned Israel in passing.
08-01-2019 , 09:46 PM
Then why did Vox not mention those other things?

Media conspiracy?
08-01-2019 , 09:50 PM
this thread is an abortion
08-01-2019 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Then why did Vox not mention those other things?

Media conspiracy?
LOL

Last edited by MrWookie; 08-01-2019 at 09:55 PM. Reason: Who's tossing about the anti-Semitic tropes now?
08-01-2019 , 10:00 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...omar-palestine

This Vox article accuses Pete of being too pro Israel. Not having seen the transcript of what he said I am guessing he was trying to get ahead of such criticism and i wouldn’t read too much of it.

Of course the far left being obsessed with criticizing Israel is another issue altogether, and one that IMO has more to do with anti- Israel being a proxy for anti American sentiment, than anti Semitism per se.
08-01-2019 , 10:08 PM
Wookie, do yourself a favor and stop wasting your time. I think you can safely ignore OP at this point. OP's another Jsmith27

The quality of discussion falls off a cliff when trolling goes uninfracted/unbanned
08-01-2019 , 10:13 PM
watch how far anti Israel the left goes.

Reason they fought so hard for their own nation.

Without American support, I just don't know.
08-01-2019 , 10:26 PM
Man, some of you have to learn to refute the premise.
08-01-2019 , 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smudger2408
He reinstates the Iran nuclear deal.

That is positive action.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Reinstating the Iran nuclear deal is pro Iran.

We can argue the merits of the agreement, but reinstating an agreement that Iran and Obama made is pro Iran.

It is not a negative action.

May be the best course, it may not be. The current administration's approach to Iran is negative.
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
But, the only nation that would get SPECIFIC negative consequences, not put in place by Trump or Obama, under Mayor Pete's speech, is Israel.
I'm no fan of the Iran deal, but the premise of these three post is absurd. Comically, you are acting like them when they face actual criticism.
08-01-2019 , 10:33 PM
Nah. Not absurd.

Dem's and media are anti Israel.

The position will continue to move there till the general election, then when they need Jewish donor money, then will pivot back.

Of course, if the general electorate becomes anti Israel, watch out. Ant Semitism will ramp up.
08-01-2019 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Only negative is against the Jews.

point proven.
Forgot to bold this gem

The only person in recent memory to think "the Jews" and Israel are interchangeable is Trump (in a recent Tweet)

Like I said, stop wasting your time engaging this troll
08-01-2019 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Nah. Not absurd.

Dem's and media are anti Israel.

The position will continue to move there till the general election, then when they need Jewish donor money, then will pivot back.

Of course, if the general electorate becomes anti Israel, watch out. Ant Semitism will ramp up.
Of course a large percentage of the Democrat's base is/are(??) anti-Israel, they are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause....and they see Israel being a hindrance to that cause. Whether you agree with that position or, not...that's who the politicians/media are pandering too, and it's a legitimate position to have (and I have issues with that position).

With that said, there has been a few anti-Semitic tropes...but by and large the impetus for the anti-Israel rhetoric is due to disagreement with policy. If you can't see that, then you are either being willfully ignorant, or dogmatic in order to paint most lefties as sinister.
08-01-2019 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Dog-whistling so he can get his leftist bona-fides.
Not what dog-whistling means!
08-01-2019 , 10:58 PM
Are Israeli right-wing nationalists asking?
08-01-2019 , 11:06 PM
itshotinvegas, thank you for real discussion.

It's just the way Dem's are positioning things.

I don't feel this is policy diagreement anymore. I think it is a real targeted effort against Israel.
08-01-2019 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
itshotinvegas, thank you for real discussion.

It's just the way Dem's are positioning things.

I don't feel this is policy diagreement anymore. I think it is a real targeted effort against Israel.
Well, if you feel it, then that must have been what was in the speech you didn't watch
08-01-2019 , 11:57 PM
Keep spreading anti semitic lies, Mr. Wookie. Just listened to speech. He clearly targeted Israel. What a shame.

If Mayor Pete is nominated (he is the best of the bunch), see if refines his rhetoric a bit better.

Israel has not had better friends than George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

      
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