It is grownup ****, it's not for you.

That you read people talking about the role Soros plays as the boogeyman for anti-semitic conspiracy theories and read that as him being "untouchable" isn't the start of a conversation, it's the end of it.

Ok. But we agree that he is a public figure who spends millions of dollars around the world promoting democracy and that his interests seem to align with government interests? True?
Should a person like this be off limits in political discussion? Of course not. He is a huge political person in this world. The fact that he is Jewish means nothing to me and it shouldn't. The fact that Open Society is the 7th largest foundation does matter though.

If I say that we shouldn't talk about something here, it's not because I think that topic should be universally off-limits. It's because I don't think we are likely to be able to have a productive conversation about it in this forum, or in this thread, or at this moment.

Now, time to stop.

I don't agree with everything this girl has to say but shes pretty smart. She's young and she doesn't know everything (but neither do I). She has her masters in some sort of program studying intelligence and espionage from Manchester University. This video is titled 'Who is it that controls us and why'

Well, I clicked on the link with much excitement and anticipation, but needless to say that was extremely anticlimactic for me for obvious reasons. I guess I’ll just go take a cold shower now and try to cool off.

LOL yeah so you know the score here.

Mostly I enjoy the idea of Fly going through her videos looking for stuff to attack me with. I will say that the answer to who controls us is not 'The Jews'.

Well, actually I meant I don’t speak Spanish and didn’t understand one word of the video.

Spanish would only halfway help you--it's in Portuguese. I only discovered this girl a few weeks ago so none of my ideas come from her, but she has a good head on her shoulders and speaks something like 7 languages and has written three books so she's quite an impressive individual really. She worked for Manchester United and caused a stink there when she left but I can't a video on that in English.

I find it comical that Buttigieg is called antisemitic for opposing the annexation of the West Bank.

Annexation is an extremist, far out, ethnic cleansing monstrosity that the entire world opposes. Criticizing that really requires an addendum denouncing all ongoing aggression? Does an article about ethnic cleansing of Muslims by Myanmar require mentioning that Israel does it too?

Iraq was invaded and torched for trying to annex Kuwait -- OP should hope Israel is not treated evenhandedly like other invaders.

More comical is that Buttigieg's position is actually cowardly. He does not call for the reversal of the invasion and the ongoing occupation -- he only demands that it not be officially declared what it is -- completed, de facto, annexation.

As an example of Buttigieg's pandering to Israel, behold:

After Gaza slaughter, Buttigieg praised Israeli security responses as ‘moving’

The "slaughter" in the headline refers to the IDF killing unarmed protestors.

I don't speak Portuguese so I don't really know what she's saying, but I speak a little Spanish. She starts talking about Jews and Zionism a little after 20 minutes in when she's getting to the top of the pyramid.

Is the ending about how the KGB is really run by Jews?

Is this a distinction that anyone should care about?

When someone talks about black homicide rates....are all the talking about points about this topic racist, becasue racist happen to use this stat to promote their racism?

She has a video on it and I know enough to know that the answer is no. But I'll have to watch it again.

So her thing seems to be The Masons, Zionism, and the KGB.

Not that I agree with anything this crazy woman says, but this video is alright, in English, short, not about conspiracy theories and not safe for work.

Should have expected the Free Masons to make an appearance ITT.

He specifically referred to using a talking point in a disingenuous manner.

If you talking disingenuously about black homicide rates, odds are overwhelming that either you are a racist or you are pandering to racists.

And that's an either/or distinction I don't give one **** about.

It was the Jews who financed Lenin?

Do you speak Portuguese? If not, wtf? You don't really know what she's saying either.

She claims that Lenin was supported by the West and that the principal aim of the KGB was to create propaganda. In other videos she cites Russian sources from people like Andropov claiming that the KGB and CIA have had a closer relationship than thought.

A couple things

1) I'm not comfortable with conspiracy theory youtube videos in languages I don't speak and can't vet at all. And since very few readers of this forum speak Portuguese, there's not much point in sharing them here either. So I've removed them.

2) I've run out of patience for this thread, which began with a painfully bad argument and now seems to be stuck in conspiracy theory land. So, TTHRIC.