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10-25-2021 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
That can be a solution of of course.

Can require a lot of clarification (sometimes called chezing) before accepting the responsibility assuming it's being taken seriously. The bet has to be sufficiently understood by all parties and it's often far from clear.

It's why contracts involve lawyers and can still end up in court with disputes about meaning.
Again, you are overcomplicating things. Make the bet reasonably clear. Only bet what you can comfortably afford to lose. Accept the decision of whoever is grading the wager. If you feel the decision was unfair, don't use that person again.
10-25-2021 , 11:17 AM
maybe, just maybe.... we can get back to the OP premise?
10-25-2021 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
You might try to load the statement of the wager with some ambiguity that leaves you an out. I don't know. I'm not a criminal like you so I don't have a ton of insight into your criminal thinking. I just know it's a general good principle not to do business with shady people because you not knowing how they are going to fak you is their whole thing.

Rococo is part right though. I don't see any big edge, which is what I said up front, and probably wouldn't make a bet on this anyway. If this was about what was going to be in the Mueller report we could have done 5 figures if you wanted. But then again the terms of that wager would have been even more difficult to state unambiguously.
I feel like I remember you calling other people children for essentially supporting the establishment. But does it get anymore supportive than following all of their rules like a good little boy? Insisting someone should conform to all of the rules in a twisted system is its own form of bizarre. The straight world can be just as cruddy as the underworld anyway--so acting as if following their rules is some badge of honor is a little silly.

Saying the establishment is evil and that they make rules designed to screw everyone over etc is fine. Following all of the rules in a dishonest system while looking down on people who choose not to is kind of an odd stance to smash up with it though. In general anyway--obv some things are just wrong. Where are your balls?
10-25-2021 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
maybe, just maybe.... we can get back to the OP premise?
Will you be willing to act as an escrow?
10-25-2021 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Will you be willing to act as an escrow?
Do you have a bet that needs escrow..... or mind your own business.
10-25-2021 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
maybe, just maybe.... we can get back to the OP premise?
I will bet you that the OP premise goes quiet for a while now until the next news worthy step is taken. I offer escrow and decision by Rococo.

(So some mild derail should not be an issue ...if you do not see what I did there :}. )
10-25-2021 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Again, you are overcomplicating things. Make the bet reasonably clear. Only bet what you can comfortably afford to lose. Accept the decision of whoever is grading the wager. If you feel the decision was unfair, don't use that person again.
I'm of the different mind that there's far too little understanding and far too much jumping to 'wanna bet' (or name calling which is a sort free equivelent)

but if to be continued then best continued elsewhere.
10-25-2021 , 05:33 PM
Jeez, the scrows start circling when they smell a bit of blood in the water, huh?
10-25-2021 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wet work
Saying the establishment is evil and that they make rules designed to screw everyone over etc is fine. Following all of the rules in a dishonest system while looking down on people who choose not to is kind of an odd stance to smash up with it though. In general anyway--obv some things are just wrong. Where are your balls?
I do believe in right and wrong, good and bad. I think D2 said his crime involved stealing money from someone, which was not portrayed in the context of any good deed. So, since he looks down on most people, I think it's ok to look down on him based on that. Not believing lies just because some authority tells you to doesn't mean everything all authority says is BS. I guess that the problem a lot of you people have is that it hurts your head to live in the real, grey world. You want to live in high contrast black and white.

My balls are in my crotch. My wallet to the side or in my coat pocket. I try my best to keep them separated. It's the fish who bet with their balls. I say I'm not a fish, but I can't say I never played one on occasion.
10-25-2021 , 07:53 PM
Bro, did you blow a fuse or something?
10-25-2021 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
I do believe in right and wrong, good and bad. I think D2 said his crime involved stealing money from someone, which was not portrayed in the context of any good deed. So, since he looks down on most people, I think it's ok to look down on him based on that. Not believing lies just because some authority tells you to doesn't mean everything all authority says is BS. I guess that the problem a lot of you people have is that it hurts your head to live in the real, grey world. You want to live in high contrast black and white.

My balls are in my crotch. My wallet to the side or in my coat pocket. I try my best to keep them separated. It's the fish who bet with their balls. I say I'm not a fish, but I can't say I never played one on occasion.
If they lie--then by defn some of what they say is BS and therefore not worth following. You could even say there's a duty to take that route. Welcome to the gray
10-25-2021 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Bro, did you blow a fuse or something?
Why do you follow me around making pointless comments on my every post? Do you do that to anyone else? Obviously you have some kind of huge problem with me. Would it make you super happy if I just didn't post in here? It's not a huge deal to me and it seems like a huge deal to you. If my presence genuinely stresses you out and it's only my posting that does that I'm not opposed to giving you some relief. I never considered that my critiques of the establishment could cause someone psychological harm but these are stressful times for everyone.
10-25-2021 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Why do you follow me around making pointless comments on my every post? Do you do that to anyone else? Obviously you have some kind of huge problem with me. Would it make you super happy if I just didn't post in here? It's not a huge deal to me and it seems like a huge deal to you. If my presence genuinely stresses you out and it's only my posting that does that I'm not opposed to giving you some relief. I never considered that my critiques of the establishment could cause someone psychological harm but these are stressful times for everyone.
Yes, it's all very stressful. A blowie would be lovely.

Dude, seriously, you cannot be this articulate and this r/etarded. Or can you? Who knows.
10-26-2021 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
That's fair enough as far as betting goes. Although personally on the few occasions when I've done a money bet here it's for charity and based on trust. I'd add that there's a ton of value in hammering out the precise question if you want to understand each other.

btw I would never agree to your chat board decision process. I would agree to a respected professor deciding. I suspect there's a bias here that does reflect the forum quite well.
You mean the one where I paid £50 to charity?

Chez, seriously, you are not this ****ing stupid.... or are you?
10-26-2021 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Yes, it's all very stressful. A blowie would be lovely.

Dude, seriously, you cannot be this articulate and this r/etarded. Or can you? Who knows.
I've got a lot of hate ITF. Taking on shitlibs from the Left will generate more hate than you can imagine. In another forum, a long time ago, some poster went to the NCAA championship game and held up a sign with some words disparaging my screen name which got on tv. The Israeli apologists here were on a constant blood boil until I was banned from the I/P thread. Some centrist blowhard here tried to take me out with a bet but took himself out instead, of course. I was going to be nominated worst poster ITF once until I did some serious politicking and maneuvered out of it.

My point is I am no stranger to internet hate. But in all my years I never considered I was actually damaging someone until you. Is that part of your troll thing? making yourself seem unwound? In another thread you labeled some incoherent mess you made as a mathematical proof. You should consider putting me on ignore before someone finds you crapping into jars or something.
10-26-2021 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
I've got a lot of hate ITF. Taking on shitlibs from the Left will generate more hate than you can imagine. In another forum, a long time ago, some poster went to the NCAA championship game and held up a sign with some words disparaging my screen name which got on tv. The Israeli apologists here were on a constant blood boil until I was banned from the I/P thread. Some centrist blowhard here tried to take me out with a bet but took himself out instead, of course. I was going to be nominated worst poster ITF once until I did some serious politicking and maneuvered out of it.

My point is I am no stranger to internet hate. But in all my years I never considered I was actually damaging someone until you. Is that part of your troll thing? making yourself seem unwound? In another thread you labeled some incoherent mess you made as a mathematical proof. You should consider putting me on ignore before someone finds you crapping into jars or something.
I feel damaged already. Please sir, may I have some more?
10-26-2021 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Didn't read the rest. Will take 2-5k on this at evens? My side is that they don't "walk".

I will escrow. Free money is, well, free.
Lot of confidence you have there in the Georgia criminal justice system.
10-26-2021 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
Lot of confidence you have there in the Georgia criminal justice system.
They do have that weird "malice murder" charge that no other state has, but yeah, I like my side here.
10-26-2021 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
They do have that weird "malice murder" charge that no other state has, but yeah, I like my side here.
Based upon Georgia’s long and storied history of appropriately punishing white men who lynch black men?
10-26-2021 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
Based upon Georgia’s long and storied history of appropriately punishing white men who lynch black men?
They've already been indicted on federal charges, they are not "walking" anywhere. Their crime is way too high profile.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/three...nnection-death

Deuces was right, I did have an angle up my sleeve. He just didn't know what it was.
10-26-2021 , 08:08 AM
If, by some wizardry, they get acquitted on the state charges, the feds are slapping cuffs on them as soon as they walk out of the courthouse. Ridiculous as it is, there is no double jeopardy between state and federal charges.
10-26-2021 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
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btw I would never agree to your chat board decision process. I would agree to a respected professor deciding. I suspect there's a bias here that does reflect the forum quite well.
I think that shows a general lack of confidence in one's arguments.

For instance i have a dispute with a person in this forum over core Mechanical Engineering processes. Very fundamental stuff where one of is right and the other is wrong. This is not an area of 'opinion'.

To google some Mechanical engineering Chat sites (university of private) and sign up and post that question for an up and down vote should be more than sufficient to decided a Prop bet.

You should not need a Professor to do so and trying to reach out to a single Professor and convince them to judge some other forums battles would not be easy to do. I doubt many, if any would agree.

If you are confident in your position you should have no issue with a poll amongst a bunch of professionals in that area.
10-26-2021 , 08:28 AM
Possibly. Then again perfering an expert to decide might show more confidence about being correct rather than about being able/willing to play to pretty ordinary gallery. I believe laywers usually prefer juries if their client is probably guilty (not betting on it).

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If you are confident in your position you should have no issue with a poll amongst a bunch of professionals in that area.
Yes but you're talking about a chat board not a bunch of professionals in the relevent area.

Last edited by chezlaw; 10-26-2021 at 08:36 AM.
10-26-2021 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
Based upon Georgia’s long and storied history of appropriately punishing white men who lynch black men?
In the last twenty years, what percentage of white men who are charged with killing black men in Georgia do you believe either are convicted or plead guilty?

I don't know the exact percentage, but based on overall conviction rates, it has to be very high.

The justice system is the U.S. has a lot of problems, but if you are charged with killing someone, you are in deep ****, even if you are white and the victim is black, and even if you are in Georgia.
10-26-2021 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Possibly. Then again perfering an expert to decide might show more confidence about being correct rather than about being able/willing to play to pretty ordinary gallery. I believe laywers usually prefer juries if their client is probably guilty (not betting on it).
Defence lawyers understand that their clients are usually guilty of at least something close to the conduct they are charged with, which is why they usually don't want their clients to testify.

      
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