****ing socialists and their universal healthcare. Who do they think they are, Canadians??? White power!

I have to say after a decade and a half you are my favorite Mod poster.

What we're seeing in recent days is that this is 100% who the GOP is, and they have no desire to change or purge the radical terrorist elements from their party

I'll try to take a sliver of good news from all of this - in spite of all the both sidesing going on, there might actually be a will to do something about MTG. Of course if they do, there will be much preening about how they clean things up, unlike the other side blah blah blah.

Of course it also wouldn't shock me if nothing is done and it all wraps up with a "we had an open and frank discussion, we have to respect the will of MTG's constituents", etc.

And in other possibly related news, I see there's a little sticking up for Liz Cheney going on as well. A change in the winds, or much ado about nothing?

I dunno. They put someone on the education committee, who has a history of mocking and terrorizing schoolkids who saw their friends being shot and left to bleed out.

I don't know if putting her on that committee is a moral depravity you can really ever escape. It's just a complete and callous disregard for citizens of the country you are elected to lead. If they're not useful, they don't matter and nor do their lives.

Reuters:

Well sure, I can't really argue with that which is why I did my cowardly fence-sitting routine and included this:



To be clear, if they do the right thing on this, it would primarily be because they think that's what's best for them politically. They had to have a pretty good idea what she was like before they put her on the education committee.

Just opinion pieces, but I found them interesting:

What's gotten into Mitch McConnell?

Why Mitch McConnell chose *this* moment to condemn Marjorie Taylor Greene

Just popped in to the MTG Twitter feed for a moment - wow! I don't know how she had time to meet with McCarthy in the middle of her personal Twitterthon. Hourly tweets all night about each new total - apparently she's managed to grift $160,000 so far today to help her "defend my seat".

MTG seems to be hitting the right grift buttons, is it possible she's the second coming?

When you have no seat, the goal is securing a seat. Your considerations beyond that and to things like 'Party' or 'Taking the House or Senate' are not really on the radar yet.


When you have one of the most secure seats and have held power, as Mitch has, your goal is less a focus on your seat and more a focus on gaining Power and the party at large and your brand and legacy.

Most on the left see Mitch as a pariah and the embodiment of evil but from the right, 'conservative' side his legacy was set to be as one of the most effective leaders the party has had.

I am not sure he wants to ride off into retirement (which he must be thinking of) being amongst a set of top Republicans who were at the helm when the Republican party was destroyed from within and became a regional rump party of kooks and conspiracies.

If you are going to be a regional rump party one way or the other, better to do it on your own terms and take the tough medicine and force a split in the party, and rule over the conservative rump instead of being swamped by the conspiracy rump.

The GOP had a hope that just given time Trump might fade and move on. That they could keep his base (or most of it) but without Trump. They now realize that Trump is Freddie Kruger, the nightmare that won't go away and who will only continue to drive the party and its members into more and more extreme positions.

He must be excised.

The GOP: where not only should MTG not be censured, the fact that she's being attacked right now is actually the worst thing happening in the United States

Lol House Republicans now want Illhan Omar off committees as a whataboutism/tit for tat backdoor defense of Marjorie Taylor Green. They really believe just being Muslim is the Democratic equivalent of supporting assassinations and undoing valid elections by force.

Person : 'Imma kill Jim Jordan'

Person 2 : You can't say that. We won't stand for it.

GOP : CANCEL CULTURE MUST BE STOPPED!


GOP arguing that even threats of violence now being addressed is wrong, a threat, and cancel culture.

House Republican leader punts on punishing Marjorie Taylor Greene as Democrats move toward removing her from committees

I sort of get where people are coming from on the fact that a lot of the batshit crazy stuff she said and did was all out there when her constituents voted for her, and the Republicans painted themselves in a bit of a corner by appointing her to the committees in the first place, as nothing has really changed since they did. I still think they should have acted, but I can understand the difficulty there. But...

If true, McCarthy has really ****ed this up. Why even meet with her if the conversation's going to be "Marjorie, you need to show a little remorse here." "No way, **** that." "OK." If the issue is that he wanted to take action because she wouldn't back down but the steering committee wouldn't agree, then obviously he did things in the wrong order. You have your steering committee meet first and come up with some clear direction, then meet with Greene. Now all McCarthy has done is embolden her - she knows if she just stands up to them, they'll back down. Complete **** show IMO.

And sadly, it's just going to be yet another wedge between the two parties, as I expect the House will vote her off the committees - perhaps some Republicans with spine will vote for that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a 100% partisan vote - party unity! And then of course when the Republicans get in they'll be looking for the first opportunity to do the same, and then this process will have become the latest one to be completely politicized. Or maybe more accurate to say weaponized.

Why Kevin McCarthy has already failed his first big leadership test

Um, OK.

Your country is so ****ed

I really think MTG has really learned her lesson...

Cancel culture is definitely much worse than being a Rape Defender/Apologist/Enabler. I agree Jim.

There are so many despicable people in the Republican Party. How can any average person abide by their nonsense?

It sure seems that way. The GOP certainly is for now, and I guess we'll see if they manage to keep miring the country in the slop with them. I still hold out hope that this all leads somewhere better in the end - I feel like the pendulum has to swing back to sanity at some point, but I'm not sure when. In the short term at least though, what a ****ing mess.

Apparently Omar repeatedly made anti Semitic comments.

When confronted by Democratic leadership, Omar issued a public apology with remorse and has since refrained from referring to whatever it was. As a result she was not removed from her committee assignments.

IMO the Republicans are correct to draw a comparison with MTG. However, MTG has not apologized or expressed remorse. And won't. The implication is that it is somehow OK to have wished Pelosi dead by gunshot and to have pretended that there was no massacre at the Florida high school and so it was OK to harass the student survivor. Not to mention the plane that went into the Pentagon on 9/11. I can't speak to the lasers controlled by Jewish Bankers that accidentally started the forest fires in CA because I don't have national security clearance.

Perhaps a better comparison would be with Al Franken Democratic Senator from Minnesota who jokingly pretended to grope a sleeping woman on an airplane (I believe before he had become Senator). Franken did apologize and expressed remorse however he was asked to resign by Democratic leadership because what he had done did not leave a path forward to continue to hold his position. I think that "liking" a post that has a bullet go into Pelosi's brain would be the equivalent.

Hey remember when it seemed like there might be an anti-foreign-intervention streak growing in the GOP? Sorry to report that, due to their desire to see a coup succeed in the United States, the GOP is now pro-coups-worldwide again



Can't really criticize the CIA doing them when you openly support the ones that are just pure humanitarian nightmares

Pretty awesome tweet in that article from a Republican candidate in the last election:



Until they wake up and disown the fringe lunatics, this is the current GOP.

I don't think it is a "cowardly fence-sitting", in terms of the actual outcome from the GOP it was a solid take and prediction. And I can't get that outcome. I can't see a line here. Mocking and harassing kids because saw their friends being murdered and have an opinion about it, that's evil. Not evil as in "a bad thing to do", but evil as in a profound and complete absence of good.

These congressmen are elected to lead a nation, and that nation includes those kids. I get that shutting their mouth and looking the other way is politically expedient, but it's also simply morally wrong on a level rarely seen even in today's politics. Most of those who do call themselves conservatives, and I don't see any values being conserved.

And Omar got censured via a House vote and, as you say, apologized publicly.

Her issue was raised, addressed, and punishment meted out. You don't go back, even if you think the issues are similar.

MTG has done none of the above and is using the incident to fund raise and incite her followers even more.