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01-24-2024 , 10:55 PM

#2301

rickroll

oddly catty

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

houston + rap = stroud boys

connect the dots people!

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01-24-2024 , 11:45 PM

#2302

Slighted

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Originally Posted by Brian James

People don't care about that crap. It's just noise. What they care about is were they better off under Trump than they are under Biden. And a lot of them think they were.

They will vote accordingly.

i think most people agree with your statement in the literal sense. it's just that we think these people you are talking about are dumb and/or bigots.

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01-24-2024 , 11:54 PM

#2303

Victor

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

I don't know that trump is that sort of racist like, say, stephen miller. Trump could just give a rat's ass if anyone is a racist, or nazi, or whatever. As long as they kneel to him.

Trump's isms are power and money. Those that have it - good. Those that don't - screw you, but give me what you have anyway. Which makes the legions of trumpers all that more stupid.

so what you are saying is that Trump is the least racist in the federal govt?

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01-24-2024 , 11:59 PM

#2304

steamraise

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Originally Posted by coordi

All non-white Americans are "thugs", "criminals", "hoodlums" etc.

Vermin. They're poisoning the blood.

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01-25-2024 , 12:43 AM

#2305

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by Brian James

People don't care about that crap. It's just noise. What they care about is were they better off under Trump than they are under Biden. And a lot of them think they were.

They will vote accordingly.

and that is why the poorest states are all republicans.
they understand **** and always blame others instead of looking at their electoral representation.
and that is just fine , who cares as long it stays in their states but their ignorance is affecting an entire nation now...

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01-25-2024 , 12:46 AM

#2306

Brian James

adept

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Originally Posted by Slighted

i think most people agree with your statement in the literal sense. it's just that we think these people you are talking about are dumb and/or bigots.

I know that's what you think. Which is yet another reason for them to vote Trump. To piss people like you off.

Well done.

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01-25-2024 , 01:25 AM

#2307

the pleasure

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What re democrats position boder policy should there be one or no?

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01-25-2024 , 07:58 AM

#2308

Rococo

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Originally Posted by Mr Rick

Its not that Trump is necessarily racist its that he repeatedly says racist things.

As I've said before, the distinction between a "racist" and "a person who says racist things for person gain" is trivial and not worth parsing.

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01-25-2024 , 09:18 AM

#2309

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Rococo

As I've said before, the distinction between a "racist" and "a person who says racist things for person gain" is trivial and not worth parsing.

If you offered people a million dollars and all they had to do was say some racist stuff, what percentage of the population do you think would do it?

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01-25-2024 , 11:56 AM

#2310

coordi

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

If you offered people a million dollars and all they had to do was say some racist stuff, what percentage of the population do you think would do it?

If it was that simple Mississippi wouldn't be the poorest state in the country

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01-25-2024 , 11:57 AM

#2311

coordi

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Originally Posted by Brian James

I know that's what you think. Which is yet another reason for them to vote Trump. To piss people like you off.

Well done.

Yeah, these guys will chop off their foot to "own the libs". Sounds pretty rational and intelligent to me!

You aren't really making any points here. Just kinda being passive aggressively bland

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01-25-2024 , 12:12 PM

#2312

biggerboat

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Originally Posted by coordi

Yeah, these guys will chop off their foot to "own the libs". Sounds pretty rational and intelligent to me!

except they end up owning themselves. Trump's only interest in any of them is that they cheer every word he says and buy all of his stuff.

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01-25-2024 , 12:25 PM

#2313

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

If you offered people a million dollars and all they had to do was say some racist stuff, what percentage of the population do you think would do it?

I have no clue. Steve King served nine terms in the House of Representatives, so the answer is probably "way too many." But with the exception of Pat Buchanan, I would be hard pressed to identify a major party presidential candidate in the last fifty years who courted white supremacists and racists as openly as Trump did.

Also, being willing to yell something racist on a street corner for a million dollars is quite a bit different than being willing to promote similar ideas through the enormous platform of a presidential campaign.

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01-25-2024 , 12:25 PM

#2314

metsandfinsfan

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

If you offered people a million dollars and all they had to do was say some racist stuff, what percentage of the population do you think would do it?

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01-25-2024 , 12:27 PM

#2315

metsandfinsfan

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Originally Posted by Rococo

I have no clue. But with the exception of Pat Buchanan, I would be hard pressed to identify a major party presidential candidate in the last fifty years who courted white supremacists and racists as openly as Trump did.

Also , being willing to yell something racist on a street corner for a million dollars is quite a bit different that being willing to promote similar ideas through the enormous platform of a presidential campaign.

Except Trump met with black leaders and tried to make the black communities safer

Probably just so he can say he did but who cares

It's better than biden doing nothing for the communities and just believing they owe him their votes

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01-25-2024 , 12:47 PM

#2316

Rococo

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

tried to make the black communities safer

By doing what exactly? It certainly wasn't by trying to shore up America's urban areas. Trump was more hostile toward urban areas than any president I can remember. That wasn't a surprise. People in cities were generally less supportive of Trump, and Trump has always been clear that he doesn't care what happens to people who decline to support him.

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01-25-2024 , 12:49 PM

#2317

biggerboat

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Originally Posted by Rococo

By doing what exactly?

telling them he would

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01-25-2024 , 01:33 PM

#2318

Brian James

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Originally Posted by coordi

Yeah, these guys will chop off their foot to "own the libs". Sounds pretty rational and intelligent to me!

You aren't really making any points here. Just kinda being passive aggressively bland

How are they chopping off their foot? They were better off under Trump or believe they were. So they're not chopping off anything. "Owning the libs" is just an added bonus.

But why give them even more incentive? That's the point I am trying to make. Didn't you guys learn anything from 2016?

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01-25-2024 , 01:37 PM

#2319

Slighted

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Originally Posted by Brian James

I know that's what you think. Which is yet another reason for them to vote Trump. To piss people like you off.

Well done.

fair play, you got me. it DOES piss me off a bit when people are dumb. i'm a white guy with a terminal degree that looks like a lumberjack i'll be okay personally no matter what comes with US politics. but it's really the ability to see outside of your own bubble/selfishness that separates the parties, just basic awareness and empathy.

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01-25-2024 , 01:41 PM

#2320

Victor

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Originally Posted by Slighted

I dont really want to piss you off personally, but I would be quite happy if the people chanting 4 more years when Biden is criticized for doing genocide end up crying in Nov.

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01-25-2024 , 01:50 PM

#2321

coordi

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Originally Posted by Brian James

US Billionaire wealth increased by 70% during the pandemic. The wealth gap went parabolic under Trump policies.

But at least we got a couple thousand dollars and could be more overtly racist, I guess?

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01-25-2024 , 01:51 PM

#2322

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

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Originally Posted by Slighted

fair play, you got me. it DOES piss me off a bit when people are dumb. i'm a white guy with a terminal degree that looks like a lumberjack i'll be okay personally no matter what comes with US politics. but it's really the ability to see outside of your own bubble/selfishness that separates the parties, just basic awareness and empathy.

Hmm I’m not seeing any exhibits filed with the court. Please see the clerk about submitting two properly formatted hard copies, thx.

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01-25-2024 , 01:56 PM

#2323

Slighted

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Originally Posted by Victor

I dont really want to piss you off personally, but I would be quite happy if the people chanting 4 more years when Biden is criticized for doing genocide end up crying in Nov.

those counter-protest chants are WEIRD and are definitely making things worse, imo.

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01-25-2024 , 02:10 PM

#2324

lozen

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So we have examples of Trump saying some racist things and as well as Joe Biden saying racist things

What policies has Joe Biden put in place that have helped the African and Latino community over Trump., Biden's policies over his career have hurt African Americans more than any of Trumps policies.

Why is Biden losing more and more Latino voters and African American voters it sure isnt over Israel and Palestine

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01-25-2024 , 02:16 PM

#2325

coordi

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Originally Posted by lozen

What are your examples of Biden saying racist things? What are you examples of Biden policy hurting African Americans more than any of Trumps policies?

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